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[Skywalker discussion] What would "break" Star Wars for you?
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<blockquote data-quote="Mercurius" data-source="post: 7796715" data-attributes="member: 59082"><p>The title is a bit hyperbolic, but the latest trailer got me thinking about how pivotal this film is for the overall legacy of the franchise. It is the ninth and final episode, completing the "Skywalker Family Epic." It is also the film that will--or could--determine many fans' feeling for the last trilogy, which has been somewhat controversial (is that an understatement?).</p><p></p><p>I haven't been following discussion around the Skywalker film and leaks in any depth, but on a cursory search it seems like there are some potential controversies brewing. Obviously there's the Dark Side Rey, which we all saw in the recent trailer. There's also rumors of the Emperor, Snoke, and even Vader making comebacks. There's the question of Rey's parentage. Etc.</p><p></p><p>But the key point is, regardless of what actually is revealed, a lot of loose ends will be tied up, questions answers and mysteries solved. In just a few months, the 42-year Skywalker saga will be over (probably), and while you never know what the future will bring, chances are we'll find a lot of resolution.</p><p></p><p>So my question for everyone is this: What resolutions, revelations, answers, plot devices, etc, would "break" the series for you? Maybe the series is already broken for you, but presumably there's a chance at redemption. But what would put the nail in the coffin of SW? </p><p></p><p>I write this as someone who loves the original trilogy, and have mixed feelings on both the prequels and sequels, for different reasons that I don't want to re-hash. But I'm OK with the original trilogy remaining "sacred," and the other six films being "optional embellishments." In other words, I don't hate the prequels or sequels, but am more ambivalent about their place in the canon, in a non-attached way. The closest analogy, in my mind, are the Matrix films: the first film was great, two and three were rather disappointing and somewhat diminished the power of the first, but I still enjoyed watching them and don't think they were total losses or ruined the original film. And so it is with the prequels and sequels (imo).</p><p></p><p>Anyhow, the closest thing to a real deal-breaker for me would be the resurrection of Darth Vader in some form or fashion. I don't mind a Force ghost, and I wouldn't even mind a cloned Anakin, but Vader's death is rather sacred to the story. In a way it is kind of like the death of Jean Grey in the X-Men comics...while she was one of my favorite characters and I was glad she came back (several times), it also diminished the poignancy of the original Phoenix story.</p><p></p><p>I also hope that Palpatine isn't back, as his death was central to Vader's redemption (And to be honest, I grew tired of Ian McDiarmid's over-acting and really don't want to re-visit it).</p><p></p><p>Maybe nothing is truly a deal-breaker, but those two would be hard for me to feel justified.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mercurius, post: 7796715, member: 59082"] The title is a bit hyperbolic, but the latest trailer got me thinking about how pivotal this film is for the overall legacy of the franchise. It is the ninth and final episode, completing the "Skywalker Family Epic." It is also the film that will--or could--determine many fans' feeling for the last trilogy, which has been somewhat controversial (is that an understatement?). I haven't been following discussion around the Skywalker film and leaks in any depth, but on a cursory search it seems like there are some potential controversies brewing. Obviously there's the Dark Side Rey, which we all saw in the recent trailer. There's also rumors of the Emperor, Snoke, and even Vader making comebacks. There's the question of Rey's parentage. Etc. But the key point is, regardless of what actually is revealed, a lot of loose ends will be tied up, questions answers and mysteries solved. In just a few months, the 42-year Skywalker saga will be over (probably), and while you never know what the future will bring, chances are we'll find a lot of resolution. So my question for everyone is this: What resolutions, revelations, answers, plot devices, etc, would "break" the series for you? Maybe the series is already broken for you, but presumably there's a chance at redemption. But what would put the nail in the coffin of SW? I write this as someone who loves the original trilogy, and have mixed feelings on both the prequels and sequels, for different reasons that I don't want to re-hash. But I'm OK with the original trilogy remaining "sacred," and the other six films being "optional embellishments." In other words, I don't hate the prequels or sequels, but am more ambivalent about their place in the canon, in a non-attached way. The closest analogy, in my mind, are the Matrix films: the first film was great, two and three were rather disappointing and somewhat diminished the power of the first, but I still enjoyed watching them and don't think they were total losses or ruined the original film. And so it is with the prequels and sequels (imo). Anyhow, the closest thing to a real deal-breaker for me would be the resurrection of Darth Vader in some form or fashion. I don't mind a Force ghost, and I wouldn't even mind a cloned Anakin, but Vader's death is rather sacred to the story. In a way it is kind of like the death of Jean Grey in the X-Men comics...while she was one of my favorite characters and I was glad she came back (several times), it also diminished the poignancy of the original Phoenix story. I also hope that Palpatine isn't back, as his death was central to Vader's redemption (And to be honest, I grew tired of Ian McDiarmid's over-acting and really don't want to re-visit it). Maybe nothing is truly a deal-breaker, but those two would be hard for me to feel justified. [/QUOTE]
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