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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7869782" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I don't think that alters the point I was making though. For two reasons.Behavior seems to be how we define what &quot;chaotic&quot; is, but all of the terms people use to describe it go back into the realm of &quot;natural behavior&quot; which is more animal like behavior. A character is chaotic if they follow their desires and sleeps in instead of going to work like they are supposed to. The second is that the law vs chaos axis has nothing to do with morality. Law can be good, evil, or neutral and how we define that is because of their morality. So, saying that beasts are unaligned because they do not understand morality implies that law and chaos are moral stances. But morality has right and wrong, so one of these would have to be wrong, which would mean it becomes possible to be good and wrong and also good and right. Which elevates one of the nine alignments as being the perfect alignment, because it is morally right and right. And that is not how DnD presents alignment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 7869782, member: 6801228"] I don't think that alters the point I was making though. For two reasons. Behavior seems to be how we define what "chaotic" is, but all of the terms people use to describe it go back into the realm of "natural behavior" which is more animal like behavior. A character is chaotic if they follow their desires and sleeps in instead of going to work like they are supposed to. The second is that the law vs chaos axis has nothing to do with morality. Law can be good, evil, or neutral and how we define that is because of their morality. So, saying that beasts are unaligned because they do not understand morality implies that law and chaos are moral stances. But morality has right and wrong, so one of these would have to be wrong, which would mean it becomes possible to be good and wrong and also good and right. Which elevates one of the nine alignments as being the perfect alignment, because it is morally right and right. And that is not how DnD presents alignment. [/QUOTE]

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