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Slaads are failures as exemplars of Chaotic NEUTRAL
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<blockquote data-quote="MechaTarrasque" data-source="post: 7870161" data-attributes="member: 6801226"><p>You can recognize that you benefit if few others have your alignment. I think you could probably define NE as thinking the world is a cruel place and you need to be cruel to get ahead, and one of the best ways to get ahead is to take advantage of all the sheep and suckers out there. If you were to "wise them up", it wouldn't be to your advantage.</p><p></p><p>It seems to me that Tiamat in 5e has adopted a "being CE is great, having CE servants is not" idea (although that may be as much out of trying to make the best of a bad situation).</p><p></p><p>That being said, I think the issue with most exemplars is that they are either good at spreading their alignment (slaadi do it by infection) or representing the alignment, but not both. Devils are the only ones who do it consistently (the more intelligent the demon, the better chance they can do both, but low level demons are too much into their own fun).</p><p></p><p>In order to justify the good exemplars not showing up to rescue everyone, they have long been saddled with "never leave the home plane" (Archons and Guardinals) or "have to remain secret" (Eladrin) with a side of "outsourced being symbols of good" to others (usually angels or for NG, moon dogs), which I think is part of the reason so few good exemplars have been stat'd out. If they will show in 5e, there needs to be a reason for them to be involved. For the Archons, maybe make them a warlock patron--they are more combat, less utility than other celestials, so the celestial patron warlock doesn't really fit. They could be looking for "secret agents", maybe they have an arrangement with the gods of FR not to compete for souls (and I would totally be good with Archons running around the city of the dead trying to recruit lawful and good souls that haven't been claimed by a god--no reason devils should be the only ones to do it). </p><p></p><p>For Guardinals, they should actually guard something. It could be like sphinxes, but PC's have to demonstrate goodness in some tangible fashion (not just "it says 'good' on my PC's sheet) maybe something specific related to what is being guarded or pick a fight with them .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MechaTarrasque, post: 7870161, member: 6801226"] You can recognize that you benefit if few others have your alignment. I think you could probably define NE as thinking the world is a cruel place and you need to be cruel to get ahead, and one of the best ways to get ahead is to take advantage of all the sheep and suckers out there. If you were to "wise them up", it wouldn't be to your advantage. It seems to me that Tiamat in 5e has adopted a "being CE is great, having CE servants is not" idea (although that may be as much out of trying to make the best of a bad situation). That being said, I think the issue with most exemplars is that they are either good at spreading their alignment (slaadi do it by infection) or representing the alignment, but not both. Devils are the only ones who do it consistently (the more intelligent the demon, the better chance they can do both, but low level demons are too much into their own fun). In order to justify the good exemplars not showing up to rescue everyone, they have long been saddled with "never leave the home plane" (Archons and Guardinals) or "have to remain secret" (Eladrin) with a side of "outsourced being symbols of good" to others (usually angels or for NG, moon dogs), which I think is part of the reason so few good exemplars have been stat'd out. If they will show in 5e, there needs to be a reason for them to be involved. For the Archons, maybe make them a warlock patron--they are more combat, less utility than other celestials, so the celestial patron warlock doesn't really fit. They could be looking for "secret agents", maybe they have an arrangement with the gods of FR not to compete for souls (and I would totally be good with Archons running around the city of the dead trying to recruit lawful and good souls that haven't been claimed by a god--no reason devils should be the only ones to do it). For Guardinals, they should actually guard something. It could be like sphinxes, but PC's have to demonstrate goodness in some tangible fashion (not just "it says 'good' on my PC's sheet) maybe something specific related to what is being guarded or pick a fight with them . [/QUOTE]
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