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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7870949" data-attributes="member: 4937">You say "That's not it at all.", but I feel like that then you agree with 99% of what I'm saying.   None of the above clarification actually distinguishes what you are saying from what I'm saying.   I fully agree that all of what you say is true, and necessary, but I'm just going one small step in the logic beyond where you seem content to stop, and that is to rationalize why the rule exist in the first place.   While the lawful would certainly agree that there is value in people knowing that a rule will not be breached even when it is convenient, I don't agree that this is the only reason that the lawful person will assert as to why the law should be followed.  Something must justify why attorney/client confidence should exist in the first place, even in situations where it isn't obvious why it serves a good purpose.  While it is sufficient to tell a child, "Because it is the rules and I say so.", this isn't the extent of how law can rationalize itself.Because the law is better than individual judgment, and not just because that it gets everyone on the same page. It's not just that you obey the coach because otherwise the team couldn't work together - true though that statement may be - but also because the coach in the ideal knows more about the game than any of his students and they do not yet have the discernment and understanding to know how to play the game. They need to obey him not just to be on the team, but because he knows best. We'll make a true Paladin out of you sooner or later.</blockquote>

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