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Slaads are failures as exemplars of Chaotic NEUTRAL
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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7871059" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I'd always thought that lowkey13 was offended by Paladins primarily because he himself (pronoun?) leaned to individualism. I'm beginning to think that he's offended by Paladins because they are so seldom done well.</p><p></p><p>As for the rest, I've already got one nitpicky argument going and I'm not done with lowkey13 yet, so I'm not going to get into your discussion deeply.</p><p></p><p>I will however give what I think the distinction between the three Chaotics actually is.</p><p></p><p>Chaotic Good: Believes in the axiom, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.", and tries to arrange all of his choices around the ethic of reciprocity. Believes that other selves have value at least as great as their own value, and believes that this compels him to actively seek out the good of others as well as themselves, even to the point of placing the lives and happiness of others ahead of his own.</p><p></p><p>Chaotic Neutral: Believes in the axiom, "Harm no one; do as you will", and tries to live by that standard of ethical behavior. Believes that other selves have value that should be recognized, and that ones own happiness is best ensured by engaging in consensual mutual transactions with others. Everyone's personal freedom holds equal value, and one's own personal freedom is endangered when the personal freedom of others is endangered. Thus everyone has an interest in preserving the personal freedom of others, however no one has the right or responsibility to actively intrude into others affairs. Personal sovereignty extends to even self-destructive behavior, and while people can choose to value someone else ahead of themselves, no one is compelled to sacrifice their own interests for others.</p><p></p><p>Chaotic Evil: Believes in the axiom, "No one has anything unless they are willing to take it." Believes that life is ultimately a zero sum game and the most successful persons are those who acquire resources at the expense of others. Nothing has real value except ones own self, and the value of anything else is only what it can profit ones self. People exist to be used, and life is only about clawing ones way to the top of the heap.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7871059, member: 4937"] I'd always thought that lowkey13 was offended by Paladins primarily because he himself (pronoun?) leaned to individualism. I'm beginning to think that he's offended by Paladins because they are so seldom done well. As for the rest, I've already got one nitpicky argument going and I'm not done with lowkey13 yet, so I'm not going to get into your discussion deeply. I will however give what I think the distinction between the three Chaotics actually is. Chaotic Good: Believes in the axiom, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.", and tries to arrange all of his choices around the ethic of reciprocity. Believes that other selves have value at least as great as their own value, and believes that this compels him to actively seek out the good of others as well as themselves, even to the point of placing the lives and happiness of others ahead of his own. Chaotic Neutral: Believes in the axiom, "Harm no one; do as you will", and tries to live by that standard of ethical behavior. Believes that other selves have value that should be recognized, and that ones own happiness is best ensured by engaging in consensual mutual transactions with others. Everyone's personal freedom holds equal value, and one's own personal freedom is endangered when the personal freedom of others is endangered. Thus everyone has an interest in preserving the personal freedom of others, however no one has the right or responsibility to actively intrude into others affairs. Personal sovereignty extends to even self-destructive behavior, and while people can choose to value someone else ahead of themselves, no one is compelled to sacrifice their own interests for others. Chaotic Evil: Believes in the axiom, "No one has anything unless they are willing to take it." Believes that life is ultimately a zero sum game and the most successful persons are those who acquire resources at the expense of others. Nothing has real value except ones own self, and the value of anything else is only what it can profit ones self. People exist to be used, and life is only about clawing ones way to the top of the heap. [/QUOTE]
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