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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Pendragon" data-source="post: 1977256" data-attributes="member: 707">I don't envision it this way.  If an Undead has a Slam attack, I imagine it pulling back its shoulder and pummeling its enemy with the dead flesh of its arm.  It's arm becomes weaponlike because an undead creature feels no pain, is not hurt or even distracted much if the arm is damaged, and the blood inside is congealed so that the arm is heavier and more solid than a living arm would be.  None of this is the same as an Unarmed Strike, which I imagine is more like a martial arts move.There is no advantage to it.  But not all feats are advantageous for all characters.  This is particularly true of feat chains.  Sometimes you pay the price of a less useful feat in order to gain the advantages of a more powerful feat later on.I don't think it's dumb at all.  But of course opinions vary.  By all means House Rule it.  That's what makes the game so flexible, even though we all have different preferences. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As a DM, I'd require the PC to take Improved Unarmed Strike to get Deflect Arrows.  Slamming your body into something isn't the same as the martial arts feel of Improved Unarmed Strike which leads to the even more martial artsy Deflect Arrows.  But of course YMMV.</blockquote>

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