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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JackGiantkiller" data-source="post: 1917732" data-attributes="member: 5080">This is an intelligent and interesting debate, people. Keep 'em coming. Good points, Fusangite, Raven, John Morrow, Doug.Fusangite: I agree totally about playing in a mindset that is pre-modern being one of the big draws of RPG's, D&D in particular.Raven Crowking: "There is plenty of evidence that slavery was considered undesirable throughout human history. Roman citizens weren't lining up to become slaves. The Greeks believed that the state of slavery dulled your body heat, and by extension your wits and very humanity. "Undesirable does not equal evil. To me, working all my life to enrich someone else while merely barely supporting myself and my family is undesirable. But i do not argue that working for a large company is evil. It's not good, but it isn't evil either. Arguing that something is evil just because the word slavery is used doesn't make sense. As noted by many people above....*not all slaves were oppressed*. There were a great many slavery models where slaves were well treated and had more rights under law than a free man...even in the US, where slavery was more obviously evil, the plight of a slave was less desperate than the plight of a Chinese-American or an Irish American during the railroad building.  The railroad used Irish and Chinese instead of slaves because you could work them to death and no one cared...one had to pay to replace a slave, and had to feed and clothe them...but there was always another Irishman or Chinaman so desperate to work that they would accept pennies a day for insanely difficult labor.The Mamluks were slaves, definitely. But *they ruled their society*. They fulfilled every major government position.</blockquote>

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