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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 1918209" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>Hmmm, an interesting point in this discussion is the fact that slavery itself, as an "institution", only constitutes the ownership and control of one individual by and through another, at least if you step down to the "personal" level of slave-holder and slave.</p><p></p><p>On a more social level, you usually had the social class "slave", which limited your rights inside this society.</p><p></p><p>Now the (D&D) alignment of the slave holder is adudicated by a few questions, like</p><p>- How did he get by his slave?</p><p>- What is his intention towards him?</p><p>- How is he treating him?</p><p></p><p>As there's enough examples of evil slaveholders, lets try and construct an example of a good slaveholder? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p>A farmer stands in court, accusing a man of killing one of his sons in a drunken argument. Apart from the emotional anguish and pain, he also is one pair of hands short on his farm, and he'd need them. So, instead of asking for that man's life to end, as would be his right, he asks for that man to be given to him. He takes his son's murderer as a slave, to work for him for the rest of his life, to maybe make up for part of his crime.</p><p>As our farmer is basically a (D&D) good man, he treats his new slave as any other human being, giving him enough food, the basic comfort all his farmhands enjoy, he doesn't let his slave work more than anybody else, or harder, or takes his anger and grief out of his hide. After some time (maybe long, maybe short) he allows him to walk over to the village now and then to enjoy a fair as much as he can without money, or to simply relax a little, knowing that his slave wouldn't come far anyway because the judge had him branded as slave, and because an escaped slave faces hard punishment. Furthermore, he knows his slave has become accustomed to the basically good life, and won't run away easily anyway.</p><p>After 30 years, our farmer lying on his deathbed, he finally truly forgives his slave, who's probably only 10 years from his death himself, for his crime. He decrees in his last wish that his slave shall be set free, given a modest amount of money, and dies.</p><p></p><p>How do you judge this farmer? Evil? Neutral? Or good? All in D&D terms, of course. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 1918209, member: 2268"] Hmmm, an interesting point in this discussion is the fact that slavery itself, as an "institution", only constitutes the ownership and control of one individual by and through another, at least if you step down to the "personal" level of slave-holder and slave. On a more social level, you usually had the social class "slave", which limited your rights inside this society. Now the (D&D) alignment of the slave holder is adudicated by a few questions, like - How did he get by his slave? - What is his intention towards him? - How is he treating him? As there's enough examples of evil slaveholders, lets try and construct an example of a good slaveholder? ;) A farmer stands in court, accusing a man of killing one of his sons in a drunken argument. Apart from the emotional anguish and pain, he also is one pair of hands short on his farm, and he'd need them. So, instead of asking for that man's life to end, as would be his right, he asks for that man to be given to him. He takes his son's murderer as a slave, to work for him for the rest of his life, to maybe make up for part of his crime. As our farmer is basically a (D&D) good man, he treats his new slave as any other human being, giving him enough food, the basic comfort all his farmhands enjoy, he doesn't let his slave work more than anybody else, or harder, or takes his anger and grief out of his hide. After some time (maybe long, maybe short) he allows him to walk over to the village now and then to enjoy a fair as much as he can without money, or to simply relax a little, knowing that his slave wouldn't come far anyway because the judge had him branded as slave, and because an escaped slave faces hard punishment. Furthermore, he knows his slave has become accustomed to the basically good life, and won't run away easily anyway. After 30 years, our farmer lying on his deathbed, he finally truly forgives his slave, who's probably only 10 years from his death himself, for his crime. He decrees in his last wish that his slave shall be set free, given a modest amount of money, and dies. How do you judge this farmer? Evil? Neutral? Or good? All in D&D terms, of course. :) [/QUOTE]
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