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<blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 3443944" data-attributes="member: 25619">Well said.&nbsp; Obviously, different players have different attitudes to what they find offensive/crosses the line.&nbsp; As a DM, I prefer not to walk to close to that line -- quickly implied badness seems safer than direct, in your face, lots of detail and repetition badness.Think of it this way: When Han Solo is tortured in &quot;The Empire Strikes Back&quot;, we don't see exactly what happened.&nbsp; We just know it was unpleasant, Han is impaired temporarily afterwards, and &quot;They didn't even ask me any questions.&quot;&nbsp; It seems safe to yadda yadda bad stuff in D&amp;D too.As in: You are captured and knocked out.&nbsp; You awaken in a dark pit, and are giving small, one-hand picks -- like climbing axes -- to work the salt face.&nbsp; The salt gets in your wounds and reddens your eyes.&nbsp; You're at half hit points and a -4 Con penalty from overwork, lack of food, the occassionally beating by the guards, and the foul salt getting everywhere.&nbsp; After 10 days of this, you see your chance when two of the hobgoblin guards get in a fight with each other.&nbsp; Whaddya do?I wouldn't go more detailed, for taste's sake and because it doesn't seem relevant.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="haakon1, post: 3443944, member: 25619"] Well said. Obviously, different players have different attitudes to what they find offensive/crosses the line. As a DM, I prefer not to walk to close to that line -- quickly implied badness seems safer than direct, in your face, lots of detail and repetition badness. Think of it this way: When Han Solo is tortured in "The Empire Strikes Back", we don't see exactly what happened. We just know it was unpleasant, Han is impaired temporarily afterwards, and "They didn't even ask me any questions." It seems safe to yadda yadda bad stuff in D&D too. As in: You are captured and knocked out. You awaken in a dark pit, and are giving small, one-hand picks -- like climbing axes -- to work the salt face. The salt gets in your wounds and reddens your eyes. You're at half hit points and a -4 Con penalty from overwork, lack of food, the occassionally beating by the guards, and the foul salt getting everywhere. After 10 days of this, you see your chance when two of the hobgoblin guards get in a fight with each other. Whaddya do? I wouldn't go more detailed, for taste's sake and because it doesn't seem relevant. [/QUOTE]

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