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<blockquote data-quote="Telas" data-source="post: 2111908" data-attributes="member: 20934"><p><strong>In my humble experience....</strong></p><p></p><p>I don't know how much this'll help, but here's some anecdotal information. I was in the Army Infantry, and had a number of friends go though Ranger School.</p><p></p><p>Among other sleep-deprived moments, one stands out. At one point, I was involved in a week-long live fire exercise (Bradley Table 12, IIRC) simulating an assault and counterattack. My group was the dismounted Infantry section of the exercise, and we filled in for all the other companies who had to run the exercise. We went through it once a day and once a night for five days, the last three with live ammo. We got maybe 2 hours of sleep a night. Yes, it sucked. Technically, the Army can't make you run a live-fire exercise without five hours of sleep, but rules are made to be broken. </p><p></p><p>After the second day, we started acting goofy, but we were dead-on when it came to running the exercise. It was pretty physical, moving and firing over perhaps a mile, including a stream crossing and setting up Claymore mines. Afterwards, we had a debriefing and cleaned weapons for hours, then snoozed for a bit and did it again. During the day, we ran additional exercises. </p><p></p><p>I remember laughing at really stupid stuff, and occasionally my attention would drift, but I had all kinds of physical energy, which kind of frightened me at the time. I probably couldn't have done anything requiring complicated mental calculations, and found myself double-checking just about everything. I remember thinking, "This is how stupid people live." </p><p></p><p>Ranger School is even worse. Twenty-one hours a day of hard physical exercise for two months straight. Average weight loss is something like 30 pounds from individuals who are already at the peak of fitness. Hallucinations set in during the later phases. One of my friends was in a fighting position, and his buddy got up, walked over to a tree, started digging in his pockets, and asked the other guy if he wanted a Coke. </p><p></p><p>Telas, not concerned at all about accusations of sleep deprivation as torture.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Telas, post: 2111908, member: 20934"] [b]In my humble experience....[/b] I don't know how much this'll help, but here's some anecdotal information. I was in the Army Infantry, and had a number of friends go though Ranger School. Among other sleep-deprived moments, one stands out. At one point, I was involved in a week-long live fire exercise (Bradley Table 12, IIRC) simulating an assault and counterattack. My group was the dismounted Infantry section of the exercise, and we filled in for all the other companies who had to run the exercise. We went through it once a day and once a night for five days, the last three with live ammo. We got maybe 2 hours of sleep a night. Yes, it sucked. Technically, the Army can't make you run a live-fire exercise without five hours of sleep, but rules are made to be broken. After the second day, we started acting goofy, but we were dead-on when it came to running the exercise. It was pretty physical, moving and firing over perhaps a mile, including a stream crossing and setting up Claymore mines. Afterwards, we had a debriefing and cleaned weapons for hours, then snoozed for a bit and did it again. During the day, we ran additional exercises. I remember laughing at really stupid stuff, and occasionally my attention would drift, but I had all kinds of physical energy, which kind of frightened me at the time. I probably couldn't have done anything requiring complicated mental calculations, and found myself double-checking just about everything. I remember thinking, "This is how stupid people live." Ranger School is even worse. Twenty-one hours a day of hard physical exercise for two months straight. Average weight loss is something like 30 pounds from individuals who are already at the peak of fitness. Hallucinations set in during the later phases. One of my friends was in a fighting position, and his buddy got up, walked over to a tree, started digging in his pockets, and asked the other guy if he wanted a Coke. Telas, not concerned at all about accusations of sleep deprivation as torture. [/QUOTE]
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