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<blockquote data-quote="Final_boss325" data-source="post: 5210976" data-attributes="member: 91315">Once again, your argument is all about semantics.&nbsp; Allow me to define the word sleep if I may:Sleep:&nbsp; An UNCONSCIOUS state the body enters in order to repair itself.To further the debate the way I see it is the dragon shaman has dedicated his life to emulating dragons, including their ability to shake off any unnatural attempts to render them unconscious, magical or otherwise.Sleep effects, AFIK, have never been officially defined by WOTC.&nbsp; I believe this is because it should be obvious.&nbsp; A sleep effect is any that would immediately render the target unconscious.&nbsp; Obviously, some things would get around this, such as non-lethal damage.The idea that anyone could say that SLEEP POISON is not a sleep effect, when it's in the name, just because it doesn't say &quot;sleep&quot; as the effect, is just utter nonsense.&nbsp; It doesn't make sense in any way, shape, or form.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Final_boss325, post: 5210976, member: 91315"] Once again, your argument is all about semantics. Allow me to define the word sleep if I may: [U][B]Sleep[/B][/U]: An UNCONSCIOUS state the body enters in order to repair itself. To further the debate the way I see it is the dragon shaman has dedicated his life to emulating dragons, including their ability to shake off any unnatural attempts to render them unconscious, magical or otherwise. Sleep effects, AFIK, have never been officially defined by WOTC. I believe this is because it should be obvious. A sleep effect is any that would immediately render the target unconscious. Obviously, some things would get around this, such as non-lethal damage. The idea that anyone could say that SLEEP POISON is not a sleep effect, when it's in the name, just because it doesn't say "sleep" as the effect, is just utter nonsense. It doesn't make sense in any way, shape, or form. [/QUOTE]

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