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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Doctor Proctor" data-source="post: 4586209" data-attributes="member: 78547">Let's do the numbers then, shall we?  Let's say, level 16 Paragon characters.  Those guys are pretty powerful and up for challenges, right?Now, the Wizard (leather armor)/Rogue/Archer Ranger that have high DEX and INT (assuming 18 and pumping it up to 22 by 16th level) will have about a 24 AC assuming they were wearing nothing.  If the Wizard never upgraded to leather, and instead wore Cloth, then we might be looking at something on the order of a +4 Feyweave (+1 AC) for a total of 29 AC.Now, let's look at everyone else (ie- Fighter, Paladin, Warlord, etc...)  For those that didn't invest in DEX at all, we're talking a straight 18 AC.  That's 10+1/2 level, and that's it.So, the spread in armor classes here is a 6, with a high of 11 for the Feyweave wearing Wizard.Now, let's look at the monsters they might be fighting:Savage Minotaur (16 Brute) - The Savage Minotaur hits at a +19 to AC.  For the guys with no DEX, this means an auto-hit on anything other than a 1, since they only have 18 AC.  So basically, they will be hit every single round unless that Minotaur whiffs on a 1.  For a Brute, don't you think that's going to hurt a bit?  Against that 24 AC though, he's hitting on a 5.  Still really good, but at least there's a chance that he'll miss against them.  The Wizard, with his 29 AC from the Feyweave, will likely be fine though.  He'll get hit on a 10 or higher, which is about 55% of the time.  That's not too bad considering that he's only wearing cloth armor and not a frontline PC.Abyssal Ghoul (16 Skirmisher) - This guy is at a +21 versus AC.  He'll hit the non-DEX PC's automatically on anything but a 1, and the DEX PC's on a 3.  The Feyweave Wizard will get hit on an 8, which is pretty good, but this is a skirmisher and that's a melee attack.  It should be pretty good against a cloth wearing Wizard.Cyclops Hewer (16 Soldier) - As a soldier, he's got a pretty good to-hit.  Namely, a +23 vs AC.  That means that he hits everyone but the Feyweave Wizard on a 2 or better.  So, send a couple of these guys in and good luck escaping from the encounter with your life.Edit:  Before someone says something, I just wanted to say that I'm aware that I didn't include examples of something like a Fighter with 14 DEX and such.  I did this to make the examples a little easier.  With the low end of no DEX mod and the high end of a +6 from a 22 DEX (the highest the majority of players would have, unless they actually took a 20 at character creation) I felt it was pretty easy to see what the range should look like.  Plus, against that Cyclops Hewer, only a 24 DEX would actually get you anything, since otherwise he'll hit anything else on a 2 or better.</blockquote>

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