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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Unwise" data-source="post: 5802151" data-attributes="member: 98008">I would be interested to see the wording on forced movement. It would make sense if it is something that the affected party is doing (albiet unwillingly), not the attacker. So only the victim requires line of effect. If I have a Warlord ability that lets my friend make a charge action, do I have to have line of effect to his target? What about a "friends can shift/slide 3 squares" effect? I think most people would think of that as something their friends are doing. What about a fear spell? "The target immediately moves its speed away from you". The target is the one moving, move is a defined action that it is taking. Once the target has been hit, are there any references to line-of-effect anymore? An attack requires LoE, but I believe that could be only to hit, not reassessed at every stage of resolving the "hit" or "effect" paramaters. I don't have my books on me, that is just stuff I would like to look up when I can be bothered.</blockquote>