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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MerricB" data-source="post: 4194645" data-attributes="member: 3586">My problems with 3e stem more from the plethora of effects that take out the PCs from the game, and with the resulting need for a bunch of spells to counter them. There's a lovely bit in Dragon (by Steven Brust) which has Sethra explaining to Vlad how magic works in combat: it doesn't, because all the spells get countered by the opposing side. Well, mostly.Unfortunately, that's how 3e high-level combat needs to work or it starts running into problems. Spells that take out PCs and don't have counters? Urgh. No Cleric in the party? Boy, you are in for a world of hurt.And multiclassing spellcasters in 3e? Big mistake. Because you're 2+ levels behind in gaining spells, and that causes more problems. Especially in an AP where you're running into problems anyway because you have 6 PCs instead of 4 and they aren't quite the right level...cheers!</blockquote>