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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tilla the Hun (work)" data-source="post: 1150187" data-attributes="member: 14214">!why thank you !Like he said - read first <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />  (I never do - I wing 98% of my games)Eeeeesh - I assume you mean a CR3 trap?  And you gave it a D6 con damage/rnd?  Ouchies.a) so it was one on oneb) it's a trap - no rnds needed, or else give them a real low DC to get out of the road of the slowly oozing slime <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />It's a CR3 'TRAP' or it's a CR3 'Slime Monster'.In the former, none - just do a poison effect, fort save DC 15, d2 con/d2 con.In the latter, CR3 with bab+1, HD=2, ~8-10 hp, or bab0, HD=3,~12-14 hp.Again, if 'trap' - no, if 'monster' then yes, I'd give 'em about a 5' movement rate.  if trap CR3, DC 15, if not - how did a slow moving slime catch them so unawares?  A spot check DC 5 to 10 should be sufficient to have avoided them, if not perhaps a DC 10 reflex?  That's a judgement call for the GM <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> -rofl-Welcome to the wonderful world of uncertain GM'ing where your players can, and will always, not do what you want them to do <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.  That's my expectation whenever I GM, hence my 98% improv on the fly.  I rarely take more than 5 minutes at max for any combat (unless it's the BBEG or a powerhouse magicker).And yes, ability drain is 'nasty', and CON is one of the worst (not that any are good).  And I agree with you - use it cautiously at lower levels.  I disagree that one should avoid using it.  It's a wonderful thing for teaching humility to cocky characters.GM: So you set up your watches and bed down for the night.  On the second watch, I need a spot check from the guard on that shift.PC1: I'm asleep.  There's nothing out here.GM: Okay, make a spot check at DC 15 with a -5 circumstance penalty, i.e. DC20.PC1:Failed.GM: Hmm, try again, twice more.PC1: Failed...  Made it.GM: Good, make a Fort save, DC18 as you were asleep and the Stirge is sucking blood out of your neck.  You've already lost (3d6) con, and your saving against the the fourth d6.He was 18th level, and the lowly stirge (slightly souped up due to a magic effect) killed him when his 16 Con hit 0 on the fourth d6 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />He very nearly killed me to boot <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />So yeah - be cautious about using drainers</blockquote>

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