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<blockquote data-quote="Magus Coeruleus" data-source="post: 4260201" data-attributes="member: 1704"><p>True, it's +2 for sling/hand xbow (+2 prof), +3 for shuriken (+3 prof), +4 for dagger (+1 rogue, +3 prof). I hadn't thought about shuriken, forgetting that they count as light blades and are thus eligible for the pregen halfling rogue's at-will and daily powers just as the sling is.</p><p></p><p>So for sling vs. shuriken, damage is same, shuriken is 1 more to hit, but has shorter range. A dagger is already 5/10 while a shuriken isn't much greater (6/12). A sling is a significant increase in range (10/20). So it's +1 to hit vs. greater range. I assume that since the table says Shuriken (5) that the cost and weight apply to 5 shuriken, even though you use one per attack. Also, it's clear that shuriken are not ammunition and should thus be recoverable. Given that 1/2 lb gets you 5, that's a significant weight savings over hand xbow/sling and ammo. 5 is probably plenty for one encounter's worth, 10 for 1 lb and 2 gp if you want to use them the whole fight (kind of funny that 1 humble sling costs the same gold piece as five shuriken, or perhaps I underappreciate the craftsmanship of a good sling).</p><p></p><p>See, that seems an interesting choice (sling vs. shuriken) as compared with sling vs. hand xbow. I think for the pregen I'd prefer to add the sling because in most cases where the shuriken would work I'd rather just use daggers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magus Coeruleus, post: 4260201, member: 1704"] True, it's +2 for sling/hand xbow (+2 prof), +3 for shuriken (+3 prof), +4 for dagger (+1 rogue, +3 prof). I hadn't thought about shuriken, forgetting that they count as light blades and are thus eligible for the pregen halfling rogue's at-will and daily powers just as the sling is. So for sling vs. shuriken, damage is same, shuriken is 1 more to hit, but has shorter range. A dagger is already 5/10 while a shuriken isn't much greater (6/12). A sling is a significant increase in range (10/20). So it's +1 to hit vs. greater range. I assume that since the table says Shuriken (5) that the cost and weight apply to 5 shuriken, even though you use one per attack. Also, it's clear that shuriken are not ammunition and should thus be recoverable. Given that 1/2 lb gets you 5, that's a significant weight savings over hand xbow/sling and ammo. 5 is probably plenty for one encounter's worth, 10 for 1 lb and 2 gp if you want to use them the whole fight (kind of funny that 1 humble sling costs the same gold piece as five shuriken, or perhaps I underappreciate the craftsmanship of a good sling). See, that seems an interesting choice (sling vs. shuriken) as compared with sling vs. hand xbow. I think for the pregen I'd prefer to add the sling because in most cases where the shuriken would work I'd rather just use daggers. [/QUOTE]
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