Slow spell and Spell Turning

[Dragon Mage]

My question is this. Even though "Slow" is and area of effect spell it still has to be targeted to individual creatures within the area. So if one of the targeted creatures in the area of a slow spell has "Spell Turning" does the Slow spell get turned onto the caster?

Thanks for any help.

 

[drunkmoogle]

The Slow is turned back to the caster, and the other targets are affected.

Slow is not an area spell. It's a target spell that limits your targets to an area. Thus, you can turn it.

 

[Dragon Mage]

Ok, that is how I ruled it also. The same situation applies to Horrid Wilting. But what about a case where there are two targets that have Spell Turning? May not be an issue with the Slow spell, but with Horrid Wilting, does the caster get two Horrid Wilting's turned back on him?

 

[andargor]

The spell Spell Turning states the following:

Spells and spell-like effects targeted on you are turned back upon the original caster. The abjuration turns only spells that have you as a target. Effect and area spells are not affected. Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells.

Since others are targeted by the spell, this means that the Slow would not be Turned.

Andargor

 

[dcollins]

Hmmmm, interesting. I'd agree with that if the language was "The abjuration turns spells which have only you as a target", but it says something that could be interpreted differently from that.

 

[andargor]

Hmmmm, interesting. I'd agree with that if the language was "The abjuration turns spells which have only you as a target", but it says something that could be interpreted differently from that.

Ah, yes, I see your point. "that have you as a target" might not preclude you being one of many targets. An interpretation that makes Spell Turning a more interesting spell, IMHO.

Andargor

 

[Dragon Mage]

It seems that Spell turning would have to work since you have to be targeted with the spell. The same would apply to Chain Lightning or any spell cast with the Chain Spell metamagic feat.

 

[sledged]

Spells and spell-like effects targeted on you are turned back upon the original caster. The abjuration turns only spells that have you as a target. Effect and area spells are not affected. Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells.

I like drunkmoogle's description of how it works better. So let's house-rule it to say:

Spells and spell-like effects targeted on you are turned back upon the original caster. The abjuration turns only the effects that target you. Other targets are affected normally. Effect and area spells are not affected. Spell turning also fails to stop touch range spells.

 

[Dragon Mage]

OK then. So what happens in the case when 6 creatures are the target of a Horrid Wilting and 2 of them have Spell Turning?

 

[drunkmoogle]

OK then. So what happens in the case when 6 creatures are the target of a Horrid Wilting and 2 of them have Spell Turning?

Then it really sucks to be that caster. Ouch. Take 15d6... and another 15d6. This is why you maximize Spellcraft.

The two with spell turning (assuming they ahve enough ST levels) are unaffected, and the caster is subject to his spell, twicefold.