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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 4123708" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>Dex to attack, usually opponent denied dex bonus to AC, weapon focus, sometimes melee touch attack, and two attacks a round with a standard action. I am not too worried about hitting.</p><p></p><p>As for compromised when cannot make sneak attack, yes. I can try and address that with augment crystals, or find another tactic for those situations.</p><p></p><p>Though again I am open to a different build, I just have not seen one written up yet. If folks think straight swordsage is better, what do you suggest (specifically)?</p><p></p><p>By the way, I took a look at the Dark template. A Dark Strongheart Halfling would indeed be an interesting idea. A Dark Whisper Gnome would also be interesting (though darkvision is wasted for the second time).</p><p></p><p>Here is what the Dark template adds:</p><p></p><p>Speed: Base Speed increased by +10</p><p>Skills: Hide +8 unnamed bonus, Move Silent +6 unnamed bonus</p><p>Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft.;</p><p> Hide in Plain Sight (Ex)(Any terrain except natural daylight or similar spell effect);</p><p> Resistance to Cold 10</p><p> Superior Low-Light Vision.</p><p>Level Adjustment: +1</p><p></p><p>A Dark Whisper Gnome would have:</p><p> Base Speed: 40</p><p> Abilities: +2 Dex, +2 Con, -2 Str, -2 Chr</p><p> Size: Small (+1 size bonus to AC, +1 size bonus to Attacks)</p><p> Vision: Superior Low-Light vision, Darkvision 60</p><p></p><p> Skills: +8 unnamed bonus on Hide, +4 racial bonus on Hide, +4 size bonus to Hide, +6</p><p> unnamed bonus to Move Silent, +4 racial bonus on Move Silent, +2 racial bonus on Listen, </p><p> +2 racial bonus on Spot.</p><p></p><p>Special Qualities: Resistance to Cold 10, Hide in Plain Sight (Ex)</p><p>Spell-Like Abilities: 1/day Silence (self)</p><p>Favored Class: Rogue</p><p>Level Adjustment: +1</p><p></p><p>Wow. That's +16 to Hide, another +6 from Dex, 13 ranks in Hide at level 10, for a total Hide at level 10 of 35 not counting magic items, all with Hide in Plain Sight. Move Silent is at 29. Almost nothing is going to detect that character until it's too late.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 4123708, member: 2525"] Dex to attack, usually opponent denied dex bonus to AC, weapon focus, sometimes melee touch attack, and two attacks a round with a standard action. I am not too worried about hitting. As for compromised when cannot make sneak attack, yes. I can try and address that with augment crystals, or find another tactic for those situations. Though again I am open to a different build, I just have not seen one written up yet. If folks think straight swordsage is better, what do you suggest (specifically)? By the way, I took a look at the Dark template. A Dark Strongheart Halfling would indeed be an interesting idea. A Dark Whisper Gnome would also be interesting (though darkvision is wasted for the second time). Here is what the Dark template adds: Speed: Base Speed increased by +10 Skills: Hide +8 unnamed bonus, Move Silent +6 unnamed bonus Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft.; Hide in Plain Sight (Ex)(Any terrain except natural daylight or similar spell effect); Resistance to Cold 10 Superior Low-Light Vision. Level Adjustment: +1 A Dark Whisper Gnome would have: Base Speed: 40 Abilities: +2 Dex, +2 Con, -2 Str, -2 Chr Size: Small (+1 size bonus to AC, +1 size bonus to Attacks) Vision: Superior Low-Light vision, Darkvision 60 Skills: +8 unnamed bonus on Hide, +4 racial bonus on Hide, +4 size bonus to Hide, +6 unnamed bonus to Move Silent, +4 racial bonus on Move Silent, +2 racial bonus on Listen, +2 racial bonus on Spot. Special Qualities: Resistance to Cold 10, Hide in Plain Sight (Ex) Spell-Like Abilities: 1/day Silence (self) Favored Class: Rogue Level Adjustment: +1 Wow. That's +16 to Hide, another +6 from Dex, 13 ranks in Hide at level 10, for a total Hide at level 10 of 35 not counting magic items, all with Hide in Plain Sight. Move Silent is at 29. Almost nothing is going to detect that character until it's too late. [/QUOTE]
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