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<blockquote data-quote="TheEvil" data-source="post: 1931916" data-attributes="member: 23261">I took a quick look at the SRD and didn't find any lengths listed for shortswords or daggers, so I am curious where you are getting your lengths from.The AD&amp;D shortsword was 18&quot; to 24&quot;, the dagger was 15&quot; (d4), the knife was 12&quot; (d3).&nbsp; Remember that the D&amp;D dagger is not a tool, it is a weapon.&nbsp; A 4&quot; knife is a tool, maybe a holdout weapon if nothing else is available (I wouldn't give it more then d2).&nbsp; &nbsp; Heh, well now you get into a 'problem' with the whole d20 combat system.&nbsp; Most of the weapons listed in the PHB are lethal weapons that can easily kill with one well placed blow in real life.&nbsp; HPs kind of throw all that out the window.&nbsp; At best all you can really say is that is what crits are for.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="TheEvil, post: 1931916, member: 23261"] I took a quick look at the SRD and didn't find any lengths listed for shortswords or daggers, so I am curious where you are getting your lengths from. The AD&D shortsword was 18" to 24", the dagger was 15" (d4), the knife was 12" (d3). Remember that the D&D dagger is not a tool, it is a weapon. A 4" knife is a tool, maybe a holdout weapon if nothing else is available (I wouldn't give it more then d2). Heh, well now you get into a 'problem' with the whole d20 combat system. Most of the weapons listed in the PHB are lethal weapons that can easily kill with one well placed blow in real life. HPs kind of throw all that out the window. At best all you can really say is that is what crits are for. ;) [/QUOTE]

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