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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Storyteller01" data-source="post: 1950260" data-attributes="member: 20931">Last thing, then I'm out too.didn't say they were the same size, I said they were comparable in strength.Also never said that a smalle critter and a human apply the same power, just that it is comparable with a medium using one hand vs a small using two handed.My 3 year old can pick up a toy 2 1/4" diameter and use it to hit you effectively. Her hand makes a near perfect C. I can do the same with a 4" diameter object, and my optimal grip size is roughly 1 to 2 inches, depending on weight, mass, etc. Given that, how is a smaller race disinclined to use a dagger with a 1" wide handle ineffectively, appling the same ratio.the strike of a quarter staff and a club are the same fundementally. Maybe its the product of specialized trainging, but here was my instructors take: If you want to use a bludgeoning weapon, use a hammer first. Don't do the '3 hits and your done' routine. Sink it in one hit. Feel in your hand what is going on. When you use any weapon of this type (and we used batons, quarterstaves, and jo staves) you should feel that same sensation in every strike. Axes also owrk in this manner, with the same feeling and energy transfer.If you want to use a slashing weapon, cut veggies or fruit for a day. You'll use the same grip and circular motion, with an expansion or detraction of circular size based on the weapon and the strike. The fundemental motion is the same. If you want to learn peircing weapons, punch. It uses the same body mechanics and defensive posture. Applying these fundementals across all weapons should give insights on combat strategy overall, not just those specific weapons. Any thing you can do with a wakizashi, you can so with a katana. Anything you can do with a slashing blade, you can do with a wakizashi. The same grip that applies to said weapons also applies to clubs, batons, and hammers. A smaller weapon would not make a difference; find the balance point and range, then apply the same principles. each weapons inherent qualities can be applied for different techniques or maneuvers, but the basic strikes are all the same. While it is martial training, it is still fact, and the reason why weapon traing cross over is so much faster after the first weapon. And remember, fighting training is a martial art. If military training is different for martial training, then why are trained martial artists the ones the military goes to to create their CQC or close combat systems? It because military combat training is a stripped down, easier to teach version of various martial diciplines. They can do this because Asian and European fighting systems all follow the same rules, and they know this.My instuructor was as good with rapier, sabers, and jambyas as he was with katanas and wakizashis because he applies these principles. As for anything heavier, I can't say. He doesn't like the loss of speed inherent with those weapons, so he doesn't use them. Remeber, this is a man who fights by choking up on a dagger blade, not its grip, or fight with a katana, one hand on the grip and one hand on the blade for close quarters. What is the negative for this?As for grip sizes, I may not be as fast, but that is the same as saying that someone fighting with a dagger is as fast as someone fighting with a two handed sword (European type). Mass decreases speed, so fight defensively in that case. Accuracy at this point means creating openings, since anything you throw will be blocked.If a small race is just as smart and just as well trained (say equal level fighters), why can't they apply the same principles? Given that weapon that are the same size are doing the same damage, and same damage type (hand axe vs axe, dagger vs small shortsword, small great club vs club, baton vs small quarter staff, small spear vs spikes or stilettos, etc. The list does on.), wouldn't it stand to reason that they are built to absorb the same forces and impacts? Also, a small short sword will not be a scaled down short sword, since even a halfling or gnome cannot use a 1"  long handle. The blade will be smaller, but the handle still has to be 2" to 3" long, and this gives minimal room for grip manipulation. The best would be 4", which a human can fit with a baseball grip. This goes back (for humans) to choking up on the blade.I'm not saying that a halfling fighter can do the same damage as a human fighter, but given the penalties they face already, (negative to strength, reduced carrying capacity, etc), given that human children (age five) start training with small weapons because they CAN lift and manipulate them, and given the halflings are much stronger and  far more developed then said children, ...how much more 'detail' do you need?</blockquote>

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