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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 2695897" data-attributes="member: 7240">But if the Barbarian intuitively does this stuff without comprehending it on an intellecutal level, why can't Dexterity or Wisdom fill in here? The idea of the "seven intelligences" is not totally stupid here. There are lots of ways of knowing the same thing; only some are intellectual. Some people "know" a language without being able to tell you any of the rules of its grammar and structure (even though they apply them perfectly) while others can only learn a language by intellectually comprehending these rules. To me, this is why D&D has between 2 and 4 primary attributes representing kinds of intelligence.But they can still be wrong easily. Speaking as a guy with a pretty high D&D-type intelligence, in most situations it's not much of a decision-making aid. I can't actually tell from the rules whether Int is what you know or the capacity to learn or some combination of the two. Knowledge and intelligence are pretty different things; and D&D Int seems to be some uncomfortable hybrid of the two.Don't forget spatial relations, which it shares with Dex and intuition (which can be interpreted either as a kind of link to the collective unconscious or simply a link to one's own unconscious knowledge depending on one's theory of the universe).Before you limit it to that, look at Dex and Cha. Also, whether there are 2 or 4 "intelligences" in D&D, does this mean all character intelligence is represented here or is some, indeed, received unmediated from the player or subject to DM fiat?Or maybe Int is the neocortex and Wis is the limbic system. (This is my personal favourite.) But I really don't buy that a 1st level human rogue with an 18 Int who has 36 skill points has the same amount of knowledge as the same rogue at 3rd level with 54 skill points. It seems to me that skill points more closely approximate raw knowledge than Int points.However, as to your general point, I agree that which intellectual tasks can be substituted with Skill/Ability checks is a pretty clear case of Rule 0.</blockquote>

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