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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 5526624" data-attributes="member: 8461">Ah, so it does. I was just looking at the addendum to Table: Treasure where it just said to add more magic items for the treasures of creatures in excess of CR 20. It makes sense to assume that they're all major magic items.Hm, and in fact, this makes me realize that despite all the calculating I've done, I haven't calculated the gp value of Smaug's hoard in D&D 3.5 gp value!Clearly, that can't stand, so here we go!First, the values in avoirdupois: We've already established that Smaug's hoard would have (with some rounding) 44.7 million gp and 24.3 million sp in raw coinage. Since the silver coins have a gp value of 1/10, they're worth 2.43 million gp, which we'll round down again to 2.4 million. With the actual gold coins, that's a total value of 47.1 million gp in coins.Now the slightly harder part, the diamonds. Smaug had fifty diamonds per scale on 1,938 scales. But what's the gp value of the individual diamonds? Well, we priced their USD at $100,000 each. Since we established previously that one D&D 3.5 gold coin is, in avoirdupois, $429.80, we divide 100,000 by 429.8 to determine that each diamond is worth 232.67 gp. We'll round that up to 233 gp each.Fifty diamonds per scale times 1,938 scales is 96,900 diamonds. At 233 gp each, that's a total of 22,577,700 gp. Again, we'll round that up, to an even 22.6 million gp worth of diamonds.And finally, what's the Arkenstone's value? Well, 47.1 million gp in coins plus 22.6 million gp in diamonds is 69.7 million gp, multiplied by 1.076923 and then subtracting the 69.7 million from the result gets us the answer. In this case, the Arkenstone of Thrain is worth 5,361,533.1 gp, which we'll round to 5.4 million gp.So altogether, the total value of Smaug's hoard (in avoirdupois) in D&D 3.5 gold piece value is 47.1 million gp in coins plus 22.6 million gp in diamonds plus 5.4 million gp for the Arkenstone, for a grand total of 75.1 million gp! Far and away more than the ruby rod of Asmodeus!Now, let's repeat those calculations for the troy measurements:Given the smaller grains per gold piece, under this method of measuring we found Smaug's hoard had (rounded values of) 54.3 million gp and 29.5 million sp. Again, the silver pieces have a 1/10 value, so they're worth 2.95 million gp, which we'll round up to 3 million gp. So the total coin value of Smaug's hoard in troy is 57.3 million gp.The diamonds also use slightly altered calculations. There are still fifty diamonds on 1,938 scales (for a total of 96,900 diamonds), and each diamond is still worth $100,000 USD. However, under the troy measurements we determined that a D&D 3.5 gold piece is only worth $354 USD. Dividing 100,000 by 354 determines that each diamond is worth 282.48 gp. It's close, but let's round that down to a flat 282 gp per diamond. Multiply that by the number of diamonds, and the total value comes to 27,325,800 gp, which we'll round down to 27.3 million gp in diamonds.And last but not least, the Arkenstone. Once again, we add the two previous totals (57.3 million plus 27.3 million equals 84.6 million), multiply by 1.076923, and then subtract 84.6 million to get a total value of 6,507,685.8 gp, rounded down slightly to get an even 6.5 million gp for the Arkenstone.So in total, the troy value of Smaug's hoard in D&D 3.5 is 57.3 million gp in coins plus 27.3 million in diamonds plus 6.5 million for the Arkenstone, for a combined value of 91.1 million gp! Quite a bit more substantial than its avoirdupois counterpart!Now, what kind of creature would have such a treasure? Clearly, Smaug was no mere great red wyrm... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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