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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 7121298" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Paladin vs Wizard.Level 2.Paladin (if he hits can inflict 2d6 + 2d8 + 2d8 + mod damage to a single foe)Wizard (can inficlit 3d6 damage to multiple enemies if they all fail saves)That's about 28 damage for the Paladin.That's 10.5 damage for the wizard.  Paladins in a single round to a single target have the ability to do about TRIPLE the damage of a wizards aoe spell at level 2.  All the paladins resources are expended and the wizard has only used about 1/4 of his.-----------------------------------------------Fast forward to level 5Wizard does 8d6avg 28 damagePaladin does ( 2d6 + 4 + 2d6 + 4 + 3d8 + 3d8 + 2d8 ) = 22 + 27 + 9 = 58 damageThat's about TWICE as much damage in a single round to a single foe as the wizard who now has a bigger AOE.  The Paladin expended a little over half of his resources to do this.  The wizard expended only 1/3 of their highest level slots (counting the spell regain mechanic they have access to).CONCLUSION: In all likelihood the wizard in that 1 round did more than double the damage of the Paladin, just spread over multiple creatures.  So no, the Paladin doesn't need nerfed.  -------------------------------------------Just for an example:A Paladin that can only smite once per turn at level 5 will do (2d6 + mod + 2d6 + mod + 3d8) = 25.5 average damage IF both attack land.  A wizard with fireball will do average 28 damage to each creature that fails it's save and 14 to each that passes it.FINAL CONCLUSION:  If there's a pacing issue with the Paladin blowing all his smites very fast and demanding a rest then that's a much different issue than the one mentioned in this thread that the Paladin being able to expend his Smites so fast is somehow way to strong.  Paladin's multiple smites a turn are very balanced with spells like fireball.  In fact after doing the analysis I may even think that the smite spells cost to many resources for the damage level they allow the Paladin to achieve.  What I'm trying to say is that a wizard using fireball will be able to out single target damage a paladin using his smites if they are limited to 1 per turn with no other changes.  I honestly can't believe that's what is being advocated for in this thread!</blockquote>

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