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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 9768682" data-attributes="member: 15700">Let me see if I can explain using an example of how we have been doing it.The sword attacker lost initiative, so they can't go before the caster's initiative no matter what.&nbsp; But, there is an opportunity to attack before the spell goes off because the spell caster is not &quot;striking blows&quot; (attacking back), but doing something different, like standing still and waving their hands. So subtract the 1 from the sword's SF of 5, resulting in 4. 4 is more than 3, so the spell still goes off.If the wizard rolled a 4 and the warrior rolled a 3 for initiative, then 5-3 = 2, which is less than the fireball's 3, so the attack goes off before the spell.It should be noted that weapon speed factor is not always used. There are only certain cases where it is (initiative ties, activities that are not striking blows.) So in most cases, whoever wins initiative just goes first.&nbsp; Thank God for that at least.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 9768682, member: 15700"] Let me see if I can explain using an example of how we have been doing it. The sword attacker lost initiative, so they can't go before the caster's initiative no matter what. But, there is an opportunity to attack before the spell goes off because the spell caster is not "striking blows" (attacking back), but doing something different, like standing still and waving their hands. So subtract the 1 from the sword's SF of 5, resulting in 4. 4 is more than 3, so the spell still goes off. If the wizard rolled a 4 and the warrior rolled a 3 for initiative, then 5-3 = 2, which is less than the fireball's 3, so the attack goes off before the spell. [B]It should be noted that weapon speed factor is not always used. There are only certain cases where it is (initiative ties, activities that are not striking blows.) [/B]So in most cases, whoever wins initiative just goes first. Thank God for that at least. [/QUOTE]

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