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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 191895" data-attributes="member: 1194">The designers...The designers justifying multiple sneak attacks in the same round:&quot;Ooooh, my wittle rogue NEEDS to be competitive in combat - I don't think they should be outshined in combat by a PC that's completely dedicated to fighting and fighting only!&quot;Me: &quot;But the fighter can't do anything else, skill-wise.Why should the rogue come CLOSE to being as good in combat?&quot;Designers: &quot;Because we should balance the classes with respect to combat, or people will complain or think the class is underpowered.&quot;Me: &quot;But the rogue is the one class that has the most roleplaying support, mechanics-wise, due to their dominant number of class skills and skill points.Doesn't 'balancing' the rogue in-combat make them unbalanced when you consider all the aspects of 3E OUTSIDE of combat?&quot;Designers: &quot;What's non-combat?&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />&quot;Besides, we don;t want someone playing a class that's underpowered in combat - look at what the 2E cleric was like. People don't like to play classes that have established roles in a party that is not a combat-capable role.&quot;Me: &quot;Blech.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 191895, member: 1194"] [b]The designers...[/b] The designers justifying multiple sneak attacks in the same round: "Ooooh, my wittle rogue NEEDS to be competitive in combat - I don't think they should be outshined in combat by a PC that's completely dedicated to fighting and fighting only!" Me: "But the fighter can't do anything else, skill-wise. Why should the rogue come CLOSE to being as good in combat?" Designers: "Because we should balance the classes with respect to combat, or people will complain or think the class is underpowered." Me: "But the rogue is the one class that has the most roleplaying support, mechanics-wise, due to their dominant number of class skills and skill points. Doesn't 'balancing' the rogue in-combat make them unbalanced when you consider all the aspects of 3E OUTSIDE of combat?" Designers: "What's non-combat?" :p "Besides, we don;t want someone playing a class that's underpowered in combat - look at what the 2E cleric was like. People don't like to play classes that have established roles in a party that is not a combat-capable role." Me: "Blech." [/QUOTE]

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