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<blockquote data-quote="Amal Shukup" data-source="post: 1407634" data-attributes="member: 6291">IMC I use and support the RAW. My arguments here were intended to counter the argument that ignoring or not being able to see an opponent prevented a flanking bonus. Exposing a player to 'Coup de Grace' attacks was one (to my mind, amusing) way to neutralize this 'loophole'...The easiest (and thus likely the best) way is to ignore the RotG changes and simply use the rules as they are. I appreciate Hyp's timely reminder that the sillyness under discussion was an artifact not of the RAW but of the RotG article alone. I think my only material divergence from the Hyp is that I do not find the above to be odd - hence the side discussion concerning the distracting qualities of proximate invisibles. This was by way of supporting/justifying the 'position = flanking' argument as opposed to the 'state of mind = flanking' argument. As 'position = flanking' is the 'RAW o' the Land', there's no need to actually get into house rule territory.A'Mal</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Amal Shukup, post: 1407634, member: 6291"] IMC I use and support the RAW. My arguments here were intended to counter the argument that ignoring or not being able to see an opponent prevented a flanking bonus. Exposing a player to 'Coup de Grace' attacks was one (to my mind, amusing) way to neutralize this 'loophole'... The easiest (and thus likely the best) way is to ignore the RotG changes and simply use the rules as they are. I appreciate Hyp's timely reminder that the sillyness under discussion was an artifact not of the RAW but of the RotG article alone. I think my only material divergence from the Hyp is that I do not find the above to be odd - hence the side discussion concerning the distracting qualities of proximate invisibles. This was by way of supporting/justifying the 'position = flanking' argument as opposed to the 'state of mind = flanking' argument. As 'position = flanking' is the 'RAW o' the Land', there's no need to actually get into house rule territory. A'Mal [/QUOTE]

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