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<blockquote data-quote="whitewizard" data-source="post: 53599" data-attributes="member: 2892">Here is the way it should work:Attacker is invisible, approaches and makes the attack with the Garrote getting all the bonuses for being invisible (no dex bonus for defender, +2 to melee attack). By executing the attack two things happen. First the invisibility is lost because an attack has been made. Second and AoO is provoked because the attack is considered a grapple attack. Therefore the AoO is done without the benefit of the invisibility spell being active since the attack that provoked the AoO also cause the spell to disapate (assuming it was not improved invisibility).I guess the point of the question is which happens first:1) invisibility is lost2) AoO is takenBoth happen as a result of the attack. My opinion is that the invisibility is lost the instant the attack is made, as opposed to the AoO which is a reaction to the attack.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="whitewizard, post: 53599, member: 2892"] Here is the way it should work: Attacker is invisible, approaches and makes the attack with the Garrote getting all the bonuses for being invisible (no dex bonus for defender, +2 to melee attack). By executing the attack two things happen. First the invisibility is lost because an attack has been made. Second and AoO is provoked because the attack is considered a grapple attack. Therefore the AoO is done without the benefit of the invisibility spell being active since the attack that provoked the AoO also cause the spell to disapate (assuming it was not improved invisibility). I guess the point of the question is which happens first: 1) invisibility is lost 2) AoO is taken Both happen as a result of the attack. My opinion is that the invisibility is lost the instant the attack is made, as opposed to the AoO which is a reaction to the attack. [/QUOTE]

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