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<blockquote data-quote="Nemesis Destiny" data-source="post: 5409541" data-attributes="member: 98255">I was implying that my DM for that game was fudging his monster's saves, but I don't know that. It was just so rare that they didn't save that I was beginning to wonder. He is the type of DM that would do that if he thought we were going to have things too easy (even if we earned it by virtue of good tactics, etc).I hope they do, but considering the treatment that save penalties got (i.e. the big nerf bat - with good reason), I won't count on it. If they do, I expect the new text would read that it only applies to the first save.A lot of the essentials stuff doesn't even do &quot;save ends&quot; so much anyway. I recall reading somewhere that this was a conscious decision on their part to simplify condition tracking (which admittedly is a pain sometimes).In any case, I may houserule it for my game that 'Wizard' should read 'Arcane' in the feat description.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nemesis Destiny, post: 5409541, member: 98255"] I was implying that my DM for that game was fudging his monster's saves, but I don't [I]know[/I] that. It was just so rare that they didn't save that I was beginning to wonder. He is the type of DM that would do that if he thought we were going to have things too easy (even if we earned it by virtue of good tactics, etc). I hope they do, but considering the treatment that save penalties got (i.e. the big nerf bat - with good reason), I won't count on it. If they do, I expect the new text would read that it only applies to the first save. A lot of the essentials stuff doesn't even do "save ends" so much anyway. I recall reading somewhere that this was a conscious decision on their part to simplify condition tracking (which admittedly [I]is[/I] a pain sometimes). In any case, I may houserule it for my game that 'Wizard' should read 'Arcane' in the feat description. [/QUOTE]

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