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<blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 6719905" data-attributes="member: 12377">Your formulae do not match your conclusion.With a greatsword, I see your level 5 fighter dealing 22 damage (if both attacks hit), and that's not even accounting for greatweapon fighting style letting the fighter reroll 1s and 2s, which is worth about +4 overall. Nor does it account for battlemaster maneuvers or champion crit chance or heavy weapon feat.Meanwhile the rogue with a 1d8 weapon is dealing only 19 damage. In the long run a single attack deals less damage than two attacks at half damage. The rogue's saving grace is that they can often get advantage from stealth, or attack twice with TWF for a possible extra 3.5 damage. But since monster ACs are low this probably amounts to around a +20% expected damage, or +4.So I see the two classes as about even -- the fighter's probably dishing more damage but the rogue is more likely to hit so the expected damage output is the same, with the fighter having the potential to do even more damage via feats and class abilities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="77IM, post: 6719905, member: 12377"] Your formulae do not match your conclusion. With a greatsword, I see your level 5 fighter dealing 22 damage (if both attacks hit), and that's not even accounting for greatweapon fighting style letting the fighter reroll 1s and 2s, which is worth about +4 overall. Nor does it account for battlemaster maneuvers or champion crit chance or heavy weapon feat. Meanwhile the rogue with a 1d8 weapon is dealing only 19 damage. In the long run a single attack deals less damage than two attacks at half damage. The rogue's saving grace is that they can often get advantage from stealth, or attack twice with TWF for a possible extra 3.5 damage. But since monster ACs are low this probably amounts to around a +20% expected damage, or +4. So I see the two classes as about even -- the fighter's probably dishing more damage but the rogue is more likely to hit so the expected damage output is the same, with the fighter having the potential to do even more damage via feats and class abilities. [/QUOTE]

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