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<blockquote data-quote="dr_nukem" data-source="post: 170992" data-attributes="member: 2253">I agree with most of that statement.&nbsp; Excpet for the part about not getting their Dex bonus until their action.&nbsp; If they are denied their dex bonus because they are not aware of you (hidden/invisible) then reason would argue that they get that dex bonus as soon as they become aware of you...not when it's their action.Another possible question is are you invisible for all your attacks or just your first?&nbsp; My understanding is just your first.&nbsp; In which case, only your first attack (of a full attack action) would be a sneak attack.&nbsp; After that, you are no longer invisible and thus, your opponent is no longer denied his dex and therefore each attack after the first in NOT a sneak attack.Now, substitute hiding for invisible, repeat.One potential way to handle this is to grant the invisible/hidden character a &quot;surprise round&quot; or partial action.&nbsp; So they get their 1 attack in that partial action...now do a initiative check for both parties.&nbsp; If the attacker wins, then the defender is considered flat-footed for all of the attacker's actions.&nbsp; If the defneder wins then he is not flat footed.This method gives the person with better reflexes (ie, better initiative) the advantage...which is how it should be.IMHO&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="dr_nukem, post: 170992, member: 2253"] I agree with most of that statement. Excpet for the part about not getting their Dex bonus until their action. If they are denied their dex bonus because they are not aware of you (hidden/invisible) then reason would argue that they get that dex bonus as soon as they become aware of you...not when it's their action. Another possible question is are you invisible for all your attacks or just your first? My understanding is just your first. In which case, only your first attack (of a full attack action) would be a sneak attack. After that, you are no longer invisible and thus, your opponent is no longer denied his dex and therefore each attack after the first in NOT a sneak attack. Now, substitute hiding for invisible, repeat. One potential way to handle this is to grant the invisible/hidden character a "surprise round" or partial action. So they get their 1 attack in that partial action...now do a initiative check for both parties. If the attacker wins, then the defender is considered flat-footed for all of the attacker's actions. If the defneder wins then he is not flat footed. This method gives the person with better reflexes (ie, better initiative) the advantage...which is how it should be. IMHO :p [/QUOTE]

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