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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 3658333" data-attributes="member: 2525">Unfortunately your build mostly ignores the instances when you do not win initiative (which will happen), or when you cannot see your opponent during the first round, or your have negatives to your ranged attack (which will happen - like if you have an ally in front of you, and your opponent is in melee range of an ally, sucking up a big -8 to attack which negates the fact that it's a touch attack, or if your opponent is at a range more distant than your standard throwing range or even outside 30'), or when you have more than one opponent (which will happen often) or your opponent being immune or resistant to the thing you choose to initially attack with (which will happen) or your opponent not going down in the first attack.In other words, you have no good way to get a sneak attack bonus outside of the first strike situation.&nbsp; Nothing to help you flank.&nbsp; Nothing to help you deny your opponent their dex bonus other than when they are flat-footed on winning initiative, and not enough money (because you are burning gold on every single attack) to afford things like a wand of improved invisibility.Mind you, I think your build is interesting, and useful.&nbsp; Just pointing out some flaws.&nbsp; Maybe a level of Barbarian for speed and weapon proficiency, and maxing out tumble, to get into position to flank? Or carry a longspear to attack with reach (which gives you more flanking spots)? Or maxing hide and move silent, and making sure you have the Complete Adventurer rules down for moving away from hiding to make a melee attack that treats your opponent as flat footed? Or something to help get sneak attack after the first strike attacks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 3658333, member: 2525"] Unfortunately your build mostly ignores the instances when you do not win initiative (which will happen), or when you cannot see your opponent during the first round, or your have negatives to your ranged attack (which will happen - like if you have an ally in front of you, and your opponent is in melee range of an ally, sucking up a big -8 to attack which negates the fact that it's a touch attack, or if your opponent is at a range more distant than your standard throwing range or even outside 30'), or when you have more than one opponent (which will happen often) or your opponent being immune or resistant to the thing you choose to initially attack with (which will happen) or your opponent not going down in the first attack. In other words, you have no good way to get a sneak attack bonus outside of the first strike situation. Nothing to help you flank. Nothing to help you deny your opponent their dex bonus other than when they are flat-footed on winning initiative, and not enough money (because you are burning gold on every single attack) to afford things like a wand of improved invisibility. Mind you, I think your build is interesting, and useful. Just pointing out some flaws. Maybe a level of Barbarian for speed and weapon proficiency, and maxing out tumble, to get into position to flank? Or carry a longspear to attack with reach (which gives you more flanking spots)? Or maxing hide and move silent, and making sure you have the Complete Adventurer rules down for moving away from hiding to make a melee attack that treats your opponent as flat footed? Or something to help get sneak attack after the first strike attacks. [/QUOTE]

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