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<blockquote data-quote="Kor" data-source="post: 3662651" data-attributes="member: 26281"><p><strong>Revised Build</strong></p><p></p><p>Alas, I have revised the build based on everyone's help. I have actually not taken any prestige classes, as the feat(s) required for them were not at all in line with my build and would only set me back. (The Shadow Thief of Amn was a good suggestion since you essentially gain 1 bonus feat from all 5 levels -- in which I beleive the 1st bonus feat gained cancels out with the Persuasion feat which I would be taking solely for qualifying for the PrC). I was hoping to sneak in a level of Nightsong Enforcer, however then I would have to give up a key ability, and loose a feat in the build order -- it just couldn't be done. The final build grabs all the key abilities from rogue and swashbuckler.</p><p></p><p>Trying to be a two weapon sneak attacker is indeed a feat hungry build. *grumbles* </p><p></p><p><strong>1 - Rogue1 BAB +0 </strong> </p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Two-Weapon Fighting)</span></p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Combat Reflexes)</span></p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +1d6)</p><p></p><p><strong>2 - Rogue2 BAB +1</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Evasion)</p><p></p><p><strong>3 - Rogue3 BAB +2 </strong> </p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +2d6)</p><p> <span style="color: DarkOrange">(Class Replacement Ability: Penetrating Strike)</span></p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Vexing Flanker)</span></p><p></p><p><strong>4 - Rogue4 BAB +3</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Uncanny Dodge)</p><p></p><p><strong>5 - Rogue5 BAB +3</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +3d6)</p><p></p><p><strong>6 - Rogue6 BAB +4 </strong> </p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Adaptable Flanker)</span></p><p></p><p><strong>7 – Swashbuckler1 BAB +5</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Weapon Finesse) </p><p></p><p><strong>8 – Swashbuckler2 BAB +6</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Grace +1)</p><p></p><p><strong>9 – Swashbuckler3 BAB +7</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Insightful Strike)</p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +5d6)</p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Daring Outlaw)</span></p><p></p><p><strong>10 – Rogue7 BAB +8</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>11 – Swashbuckler4 BAB +9</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +6d6)</p><p></p><p><strong>12 – Swashbuckler5 BAB +10</strong> </p><p> <span style="color: DarkOrange">(Class Replacement Ability: Shield of Blades)</span></p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Craven)</span></p><p></p><p><strong>13 – Rogue8 BAB +11</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Improved Uncanny Dodge)</p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +7d6)</p><p></p><p><strong>14 – Rogue9 BAB +11</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>15 – Rogue10 BAB +12</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Opportunist)</p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting)</span></p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +8d6)</p><p></p><p><strong>16 – Rogue11 BAB +13</strong></p><p> </p><p><strong>17 – Rogue12 BAB +14</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +9d6)</p><p></p><p><strong>18 – Swashbuckler6 BAB +15</strong></p><p> <span style="color: SandyBrown">(Feat: Greater Two-Weapon Fighting</span></p><p> </p><p><strong>19 – Swashbuckler7 BAB +16</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Acrobatic Charge)</p><p> (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +10d6)</p><p></p><p><strong>20 – Rogue13 BAB +16</strong></p><p> (Class Ability: Improved Evasion <u>OR</u> Savvy Rogue - Opportunist)</p><p></p><p></p><p><em>EDIT: Disemboweling Strike removed from build. Shuffled feats down.</em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kor, post: 3662651, member: 26281"] [b]Revised Build[/b] Alas, I have revised the build based on everyone's help. I have actually not taken any prestige classes, as the feat(s) required for them were not at all in line with my build and would only set me back. (The Shadow Thief of Amn was a good suggestion since you essentially gain 1 bonus feat from all 5 levels -- in which I beleive the 1st bonus feat gained cancels out with the Persuasion feat which I would be taking solely for qualifying for the PrC). I was hoping to sneak in a level of Nightsong Enforcer, however then I would have to give up a key ability, and loose a feat in the build order -- it just couldn't be done. The final build grabs all the key abilities from rogue and swashbuckler. Trying to be a two weapon sneak attacker is indeed a feat hungry build. *grumbles* [B]1 - Rogue1 BAB +0 [/B] [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Two-Weapon Fighting)[/COLOR] [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Combat Reflexes)[/COLOR] (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +1d6) [B]2 - Rogue2 BAB +1[/B] (Class Ability: Evasion) [B]3 - Rogue3 BAB +2 [/B] (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +2d6) [COLOR=DarkOrange](Class Replacement Ability: Penetrating Strike)[/COLOR] [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Vexing Flanker)[/COLOR] [B]4 - Rogue4 BAB +3[/B] (Class Ability: Uncanny Dodge) [B]5 - Rogue5 BAB +3[/B] (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +3d6) [B]6 - Rogue6 BAB +4 [/B] [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Adaptable Flanker)[/COLOR] [B]7 – Swashbuckler1 BAB +5[/B] (Class Ability: Weapon Finesse) [B]8 – Swashbuckler2 BAB +6[/B] (Class Ability: Grace +1) [B]9 – Swashbuckler3 BAB +7[/B] (Class Ability: Insightful Strike) (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +5d6) [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Daring Outlaw)[/COLOR] [B]10 – Rogue7 BAB +8[/B] [B]11 – Swashbuckler4 BAB +9[/B] (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +6d6) [B]12 – Swashbuckler5 BAB +10[/B] [COLOR=DarkOrange](Class Replacement Ability: Shield of Blades)[/COLOR] [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Craven)[/COLOR] [B]13 – Rogue8 BAB +11[/B] (Class Ability: Improved Uncanny Dodge) (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +7d6) [B]14 – Rogue9 BAB +11[/B] [B]15 – Rogue10 BAB +12[/B] (Class Ability: Opportunist) [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Improved Two-Weapon Fighting)[/COLOR] (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +8d6) [B]16 – Rogue11 BAB +13[/B] [B]17 – Rogue12 BAB +14[/B] (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +9d6) [B]18 – Swashbuckler6 BAB +15[/B] [COLOR=SandyBrown](Feat: Greater Two-Weapon Fighting[/COLOR] [B]19 – Swashbuckler7 BAB +16[/B] (Class Ability: Acrobatic Charge) (Class Ability: Sneak Attack +10d6) [B]20 – Rogue13 BAB +16[/B] (Class Ability: Improved Evasion [U]OR[/U] Savvy Rogue - Opportunist) [I]EDIT: Disemboweling Strike removed from build. Shuffled feats down.[/I] [/QUOTE]
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