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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 4107075" data-attributes="member: 51942">Do you enforce the 50% mischance for hitting a gullet for people that can't see in the dark?My core argument is precisely that the Swallow whole rule is a small stand-alone rule for a specific situation and that reading too much into it isn't a good idea.&nbsp; Reading mischance into it, for instance, certainly isn't.&nbsp; I think the regular swallow whole mechanic without rule interactions works fine, and adding other rules to the mix doesn't improve things.&nbsp; That means, you can attack the gullet with a -4 penalty, and you can cut yourself out, and that's pretty much it.&nbsp; (You can of course do some other things you could normally do in a grapple, such as activate a magic item, or draw a light weapon, but you can't pin your opponent).In any case, I don't think I've ever seen a rogue that could see in the dark swallowed whole before - of course, I might have forgotten, but it's certainly not exactly a common situation.Basically, an &quot;extra&quot; mechanic like swallow whole which is used rarely works best when its very simple.&nbsp; All these factors like mischance and sneak attack etc just aren't simple enough - and they don't necessarily make much sense either, so I wouldn't allow em.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eamon, post: 4107075, member: 51942"] Do you enforce the 50% mischance for hitting a gullet for people that can't see in the dark? My core argument is precisely that the Swallow whole rule is a small stand-alone rule for a specific situation and that reading too much into it isn't a good idea. Reading mischance into it, for instance, certainly isn't. I think the regular swallow whole mechanic without rule interactions works fine, and adding other rules to the mix doesn't improve things. That means, you can attack the gullet with a -4 penalty, and you can cut yourself out, and that's pretty much it. (You can of course do some other things you could normally do in a grapple, such as activate a magic item, or draw a light weapon, but you can't pin your opponent). In any case, I don't think I've ever seen a rogue that could see in the dark swallowed whole before - of course, I might have forgotten, but it's certainly not exactly a common situation. Basically, an "extra" mechanic like swallow whole which is used rarely works best when its very simple. All these factors like mischance and sneak attack etc just aren't simple enough - and they don't necessarily make much sense either, so I wouldn't allow em. [/QUOTE]

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