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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4114574" data-attributes="member: 1656">I don't think any inference is required to determine that the hand, eye, liver, or gullet of Creature X is part of Creature X.We're assuming a light source or darkvision on the part of the rogue.&nbsp; If you rule that digestive juices provide concealment despite the darkness issue being overcome, then the rogue cannot sneak attack.If you don't rule that digestive juices provide concealment, then I disagree that the rogue cannot identify anatomy.&nbsp; With his light source (or darkvision), he can see the interior of the gullet just fine, and I don't see that there's any difference between identifying a target point for a sneak attack on the outside of an aberration you've never seen before, and identifying a target point for a sneak attack on the inside of a dinosaur you've never seen before.&nbsp; A creature is denied its Dex bonus against opponents with total concealment.&nbsp; The rogue has total concealment from the Dire Shark; the Dire Shark is thus denied its Dex bonus.&nbsp; As it happens, the Dire Shark's AC with respect to the rogue doesn't include a Dex bonus anyway, but this isn't a problem: &quot;The rogue’s attack deals extra damage any time her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC (whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not)...&quot;. I'm not arguing that the gullet is vulnerable to sneak attack because its AC does not include a Dex modifier.&nbsp; I'm arguing that it's vulnerable because the rogue has total concealment, and thus the creature is denied a Dex bonus to AC.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4114574, member: 1656"] I don't think any inference is required to determine that the hand, eye, liver, or gullet of Creature X is part of Creature X. We're assuming a light source or darkvision on the part of the rogue. If you rule that digestive juices provide concealment despite the darkness issue being overcome, then the rogue cannot sneak attack. If you [i]don't[/i] rule that digestive juices provide concealment, then I disagree that the rogue cannot identify anatomy. With his light source (or darkvision), he can see the interior of the gullet just fine, and I don't see that there's any difference between identifying a target point for a sneak attack on the outside of an aberration you've never seen before, and identifying a target point for a sneak attack on the inside of a dinosaur you've never seen before. A creature is denied its Dex bonus against opponents with total concealment. The rogue has total concealment from the Dire Shark; the Dire Shark is thus denied its Dex bonus. As it happens, the Dire Shark's AC with respect to the rogue doesn't include a Dex bonus anyway, but this isn't a problem: "[i]The rogue’s attack deals extra damage any time her target would be denied a Dexterity bonus to AC ([b]whether the target actually has a Dexterity bonus or not[/b])...[/i]". I'm not arguing that the gullet is vulnerable to sneak attack because its AC does not include a Dex modifier. I'm arguing that it's vulnerable because the rogue has total concealment, and thus the creature is denied a Dex bonus to AC. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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