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<blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 2589547" data-attributes="member: 1288"><p>Okay, this could arguably go into the House Rules forum, since it involves a change to the RAW. However, I'm looking for opinions on how two class features that are in the RAW compare, so I'm putting it here. If that was a mistake, I trust a mod will feel free to move the thread. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>No matter how long a guy's been working with D20, it's sometimes still a balancing act. I'm trying to swap out class features, and since they're <em>very</em> different features, I'd like some other opinions on how well the equate.</p><p></p><p>Specifically, I like the idea of playing a bard who gains sneak attack (like a rogue), but loses the bardic music ability.</p><p></p><p>My question is, over the course of the full 20 levels of advancement, how many d6 of sneak attack damage would you say that's worth? The full 10, like a rogue? Cut it in half and say 5? Somewhere in-between?</p><p></p><p>What do you all think?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mouseferatu, post: 2589547, member: 1288"] Okay, this could arguably go into the House Rules forum, since it involves a change to the RAW. However, I'm looking for opinions on how two class features that are in the RAW compare, so I'm putting it here. If that was a mistake, I trust a mod will feel free to move the thread. :) No matter how long a guy's been working with D20, it's sometimes still a balancing act. I'm trying to swap out class features, and since they're [i]very[/i] different features, I'd like some other opinions on how well the equate. Specifically, I like the idea of playing a bard who gains sneak attack (like a rogue), but loses the bardic music ability. My question is, over the course of the full 20 levels of advancement, how many d6 of sneak attack damage would you say that's worth? The full 10, like a rogue? Cut it in half and say 5? Somewhere in-between? What do you all think? [/QUOTE]
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