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<blockquote data-quote="Jefe Bergenstein" data-source="post: 7569713" data-attributes="member: 31506">Narrate this sequence for me in 1st edition. Amy hits Bob for 4 HP of damage. Was it a mortal wound? Was it a scratch? Who knows! When Todd heals Bob for 3 HP of damage with cure light wounds, did it stuff his guts back in? Did it patch up a scratch? Why does Cure Light Wounds repair dreadful injury to a 0th level human, but do nothing for a high level fighter? Why do the gods hate high level Bob and love low level Bob?The &quot;HP is meat&quot; crowd wants to stick their fingers in their ears and ignore that HP simply DOES NOT WORK as meat, and never has. Why does your effectiveness not fall as you take damage? In real life, being stabbed limits your ability to run. In D&amp;D there is no death spiral. Wounds don't bleed on their own. Bones aren't broken leaving lasting debilitating effects. There's no mental trauma from being attacked or killing the hundreds of sentient being a character is likely to put down by 5th level. D&amp;D has always been bad at the simulation of anything but being a D&amp;D character. Third edition may have tricked a bunch of people with a bunch of fiddly minutia, but a spreadsheet full of numbers porn doesn't make it feel real.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jefe Bergenstein, post: 7569713, member: 31506"] Narrate this sequence for me in 1st edition. Amy hits Bob for 4 HP of damage. Was it a mortal wound? Was it a scratch? Who knows! When Todd heals Bob for 3 HP of damage with cure light wounds, did it stuff his guts back in? Did it patch up a scratch? Why does Cure Light Wounds repair dreadful injury to a 0th level human, but do nothing for a high level fighter? Why do the gods hate high level Bob and love low level Bob? The "HP is meat" crowd wants to stick their fingers in their ears and ignore that HP simply DOES NOT WORK as meat, and never has. Why does your effectiveness not fall as you take damage? In real life, being stabbed limits your ability to run. In D&D there is no death spiral. Wounds don't bleed on their own. Bones aren't broken leaving lasting debilitating effects. There's no mental trauma from being attacked or killing the hundreds of sentient being a character is likely to put down by 5th level. D&D has always been bad at the simulation of anything but being a D&D character. Third edition may have tricked a bunch of people with a bunch of fiddly minutia, but a spreadsheet full of numbers porn doesn't make it feel real. [/QUOTE]

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