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<blockquote data-quote="LostSoul" data-source="post: 76933" data-attributes="member: 386">That's not the real problem.&nbsp; A Fighter who takes Rogue to get Sneak Attack also gains the ability to find traps with DCs higher than 20 as well as 8 skill points and a whole smack of class skills.&nbsp; What's more, he can't get better at Sneak Attack without learning Evasion, Uncanny Dodge, and getting more skills.If a Fighter wanted Sneak Attack but wanted to focus on his combat skills, I'd let him take a Sneak Attack +1d6 for every level he takes d6 hit points and Rogue saves.&nbsp; He can trade the other abilities of the Rogue for +1 BAB and the Fighter's typical 2 skill points per level and poor class skill list.Or I'd just make it a Feat at the beginning and run with it, giving Rogues the choice not to take it if they'd rather have Skill Focus or something else.Not everybody might be able to do this.&nbsp; If I tried to switch systems with my current group, I'd be left by alone.&nbsp; Some people will only play D&amp;D.&nbsp; So leaving it for other systems isn't always the answer.I think it is reasonable to try and tweak - or totally re-work - the system until you and your group is satisfied with the end result.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LostSoul, post: 76933, member: 386"] That's not the real problem. A Fighter who takes Rogue to get Sneak Attack also gains the ability to find traps with DCs higher than 20 as well as 8 skill points and a whole smack of class skills. What's more, he can't get better at Sneak Attack without learning Evasion, Uncanny Dodge, and getting more skills. If a Fighter wanted Sneak Attack but wanted to focus on his combat skills, I'd let him take a Sneak Attack +1d6 for every level he takes d6 hit points and Rogue saves. He can trade the other abilities of the Rogue for +1 BAB and the Fighter's typical 2 skill points per level and poor class skill list. Or I'd just make it a Feat at the beginning and run with it, giving Rogues the choice [i]not[/i] to take it if they'd rather have Skill Focus or something else. Not everybody might be able to do this. If I tried to switch systems with my current group, I'd be left by alone. Some people will [b]only[/b] play D&D. So leaving it for other systems isn't always the answer. I think it is reasonable to try and tweak - or totally re-work - the system until you and your group is satisfied with the end result. [/QUOTE]

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