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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mzsylver" data-source="post: 78587" data-attributes="member: 2520">considering you can take one level in sorcerer or wizard or cleric and learn a little bit of magic... it doesnt seem that absurd. it seems like the 3e system is your problem.first question: did you ever play 2e? the classes were basically the same.second question: are you sure 3e is the right system for you?i personally dont like 3e that much but i play it nonetheless. if i ever run a home campaign again, it will be in 2e.i suggest using a non-magic D20 variant - there is a neat new one presented in Polyhedron or Dragon somewhere that's a bit modernized. just write up a few classes - then you'll be sure they suit your needs.good luck! =)</blockquote>