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<blockquote data-quote="Nvvyn" data-source="post: 286006" data-attributes="member: 5770">Well, personally I don't think you should nerf the sneak attacks.&nbsp; In order for a mage to be able to get sneak attacks, they have to take levels of rogue, effictively reducing their caster level by 1 for every 1d6 of sneak attack dmg.&nbsp; This keeps in balance with sneak attacking ranged spells.&nbsp; If you made it to where they had to penetrate the armor as well, it will make the character unbalancxed. Then the character will not only have a lesser chance to sneak attack, but will also have lower caster level because he took levels of rogue TO GET the sneak attack in the first place.&nbsp; &nbsp; Like I've heard many times before.... Why change something that wizards have spent literaly HUNDREDS of hours play-testing in order to keep things balanced.&nbsp; Sneak attack is powerful, but considering the CASTER levels a mage gives up for the ability,&nbsp; it keeps it balanced.&nbsp; As a DM, I believe the only action you should take towards this, is let the mage have his sneak attack ray fo frost.&nbsp; He will do his 1d3+ xd6 dmg.&nbsp; Then a monster, or whatever the pc's are fighting, will obviously notice this wizard casting powerful arcanic spells towards their friends, and they will undoubtedly target the wizard ASAP.&nbsp; So, basically just make a monster attack the casting PC as soon as they notice he is the &quot;powerful wizard that has really low hp and sucks in melee&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nvvyn, post: 286006, member: 5770"] Well, personally I don't think you should nerf the sneak attacks. In order for a mage to be able to get sneak attacks, they have to take levels of rogue, effictively reducing their caster level by 1 for every 1d6 of sneak attack dmg. This keeps in balance with sneak attacking ranged spells. If you made it to where they had to penetrate the armor as well, it will make the character unbalancxed. Then the character will not only have a lesser chance to sneak attack, but will also have lower caster level because he took levels of rogue TO GET the sneak attack in the first place. Like I've heard many times before.... Why change something that wizards have spent literaly HUNDREDS of hours play-testing in order to keep things balanced. Sneak attack is powerful, but considering the CASTER levels a mage gives up for the ability, it keeps it balanced. As a DM, I believe the only action you should take towards this, is let the mage have his sneak attack ray fo frost. He will do his 1d3+ xd6 dmg. Then a monster, or whatever the pc's are fighting, will obviously notice this wizard casting powerful arcanic spells towards their friends, and they will undoubtedly target the wizard ASAP. So, basically just make a monster attack the casting PC as soon as they notice he is the "powerful wizard that has really low hp and sucks in melee". [/QUOTE]

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