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<blockquote data-quote="Eccles" data-source="post: 286187" data-attributes="member: 5675">I have to be able to visialise the rules before I'm happy with them. My problem isn't with ranged attacks doing sneak attack damage. It's with the fact that, all of a sudden, the 1,500 gp of plate armour I bought to cover my privates is being rendered useless because some crummy mage just touched me on the knee. I simply don't understand why the mage should be given the advantage of a touch attack that cripples the target with sneak damage. The sneak attack, by its very nature, takes advantage of the opponent's distraction to avoid their armour and slip a dagger in past it.Why should a level 19 rogue, level 1 sorceror be able to cast a level 0 spell that does 1D3 plus 10D6 damage 6 times a day? It's an accuracy thing. The main reason a touch attack is easy because it only has to touch any part of the anatomy. The reason a sneak attack is hard is because it has to hit specific parts of the target that are covered by armour.I simply cannot justify, in my mind, an attack that gets all of the advantages of a sneak attack without actually having to bypass the armour.OK, you might chill the armour. And I would happily let you pass on your 1D3 chill damage from your Ray of Frost. But why on earth would the Ray of Frost suddenly be doing the massive damage that sneak attacks can involve without a degree of finesse and skill?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Eccles, post: 286187, member: 5675"] I have to be able to visialise the rules before I'm happy with them. My problem isn't with ranged attacks doing sneak attack damage. It's with the fact that, all of a sudden, the 1,500 gp of plate armour I bought to cover my privates is being rendered useless because some crummy mage just touched me on the knee. I simply don't understand why the mage should be given the advantage of a touch attack that cripples the target with sneak damage. The sneak attack, by its very nature, takes advantage of the opponent's distraction to avoid their armour and slip a dagger in past it. Why should a level 19 rogue, level 1 sorceror be able to cast a level 0 spell that does 1D3 plus 10D6 damage 6 times a day? It's an accuracy thing. The main reason a touch attack is easy because it only has to touch any part of the anatomy. The reason a sneak attack is hard is because it has to hit specific parts of the target that are covered by armour. I simply cannot justify, in my mind, an attack that gets all of the advantages of a sneak attack without actually having to bypass the armour. OK, you might chill the armour. And I would happily let you pass on your 1D3 chill damage from your Ray of Frost. But why on earth would the Ray of Frost suddenly be doing the [I]massive[/I] damage that sneak attacks can involve without a degree of finesse and skill? [/QUOTE]

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