Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Petrosian" data-source="post: 288902" data-attributes="member: 1149">[/B]</blockquote>It is certainly possible that my math is wrong but in order for me to buy that i need to be shown why.Also remember, my math was there to REFUTE the multiple statements that comparing one wand per round to full attacks using TWf or RS showed the wand CLEARLY inferior.If my math is in error, please let me know.Here is the show my work stage...************rogue-10 with +7 BAB +5 dex bobus (for missile or finesse) and +2 weapon = +14 to hit rollApply -2 for TWF or RS and -5 more to the iterative attack which means three rolls at +12/+12/+7Against AC 27 this equates to 30%/30%/5% chances of damage.Damage 23 means expected damage is 6.9+6.9+1.15 = 14.95.******************************8Rogue with same stats and a wand.one ranged touch attack +12 (dex plus bab) vs ac 14 means he hits 95% of the time with damage being 17.5 from sneak and +2 from the ray itself for 19.5.95% of 19.5 = 18.525.If we allow for a 15% UMD failure on top of that (need a 20, skill = 13 and +3 for cha = 16 so we fail on 1-3 only) this drops to 15.746... *******************So where is my math wrong?Yes, and that means my point, which was that the two different arguments which talked about how much more damage the full attack with rapid fire or twf would do than the wand were just plain wrong, is supported by the math.Tho again, please correct my math.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Petrosian, post: 288902, member: 1149"] [/B][/QUOTE] It is certainly possible that my math is wrong but in order for me to buy that i need to be shown why. Also remember, my math was there to REFUTE the multiple statements that comparing one wand per round to full attacks using TWf or RS showed the wand CLEARLY inferior. If my math is in error, please let me know. Here is the show my work stage... ************ rogue-10 with +7 BAB +5 dex bobus (for missile or finesse) and +2 weapon = +14 to hit roll Apply -2 for TWF or RS and -5 more to the iterative attack which means three rolls at +12/+12/+7 Against AC 27 this equates to 30%/30%/5% chances of damage. Damage 23 means expected damage is 6.9+6.9+1.15 = 14.95. **************** **************8 Rogue with same stats and a wand. one ranged touch attack +12 (dex plus bab) vs ac 14 means he hits 95% of the time with damage being 17.5 from sneak and +2 from the ray itself for 19.5. 95% of 19.5 = 18.525. If we allow for a 15% UMD failure on top of that (need a 20, skill = 13 and +3 for cha = 16 so we fail on 1-3 only) this drops to 15.746... ******************* So where is my math wrong? Yes, and that means my point, which was that the two different arguments which talked about how much more damage the full attack with rapid fire or twf would do than the wand were just plain wrong, is supported by the math. Tho again, please correct my math. [/QUOTE]

Verification