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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 293129" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Sorry AGGEMAM, this time your just wrong <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> :</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The itialized portion implies nothing, really about whether rogue's sneak attacks apply after the first blow if he started invisible. One of the preceding sentences is the really key one:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The question remains: does an opponent regain his dex bonus when the rogue turns visible after his first attack? The italized portion does not help settle this isue at all.</p><p></p><p>A shame, really, because it looks like it might at first, but it just does not.</p><p></p><p>Thus, two questions still remain to be definitively answered:</p><p></p><p>If you start out invisible, do you:</p><p></p><p>1. Turn visible after your first attack, or after your entire attack routine (or both attacks, if hasted, I suppose)</p><p></p><p>AND</p><p></p><p>2. If you do turn visisble after your first attack, does you opponent regain his dex bonus as soon as you are visisble, or not until his turn?</p><p></p><p>The quoted text above does not help answer either question.</p><p></p><p>I think the answer is that you turn visible after your first attack, and thus at that point your opponent is no longer denied his dex baonus against you, so you can't sneak attack any more. This is a matter of opinion and rules interpretation, though, it's not completely clear as written.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 293129, member: 111"] Sorry AGGEMAM, this time your just wrong :) : The itialized portion implies nothing, really about whether rogue's sneak attacks apply after the first blow if he started invisible. One of the preceding sentences is the really key one: The question remains: does an opponent regain his dex bonus when the rogue turns visible after his first attack? The italized portion does not help settle this isue at all. A shame, really, because it looks like it might at first, but it just does not. Thus, two questions still remain to be definitively answered: If you start out invisible, do you: 1. Turn visible after your first attack, or after your entire attack routine (or both attacks, if hasted, I suppose) AND 2. If you do turn visisble after your first attack, does you opponent regain his dex bonus as soon as you are visisble, or not until his turn? The quoted text above does not help answer either question. I think the answer is that you turn visible after your first attack, and thus at that point your opponent is no longer denied his dex baonus against you, so you can't sneak attack any more. This is a matter of opinion and rules interpretation, though, it's not completely clear as written. [/QUOTE]
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