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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Petrosian" data-source="post: 296128" data-attributes="member: 1149">As promised... the response from WOTC questions which was in my inbox this am.****************************************After the first attack(swing or whatever) you lose the invisibility, so if you had additional attacks that round, you would be seen and the defender would have his Dex bonus.Thanks and Happy Gaming!***********************************************************Alex W.Wizards of the Coast - Game SupportWebsite: <a href="http://www.wizards.com" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com</a>Game Support E-Mail: <a href="mailto:custserv@wizards.com">custserv@wizards.com</a>Game Support Phone: 1-800-324-6496Monday through Friday, 9 AM - 7 PM PSTCorporate Phone: (425) 226-6500Please quote this e-mail in any reply.-----Original Message-----From: Rushing, Steve W. Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:21 PMTo: 'questions@wizards.com'Subject: Invisibility timing question for DND 3eIn DND 3e, do the effects for invisibility dissappear immediately, as soonas the invisibile character attacks, or do they linger until the end of histurn?Example specifically on point:A rogue who is invisible makes one swing at a fighter. Since the fightercannot see him, he gets no dex bonus, the rogue gets a +2 and the attack isa sneak attack. lets say that first swing hits. Is the rogue visible now forall purposes, some purposes, or is he still invisible for some purposes orall purposes? Some example of why this matters.The rogue at this instant can choose to use a full attack to get a second orthird swings. Are these also sneaks or is the "now visible" rogue no longerdenying the dex bonus?The rogue at this chance can move away instead, drawing an AoO and that 50%miss chance were he still to be considered invisible would be a potentiallife saver.The fighter might have a readied action to swing when the rogue becomesvisible. If the rogue is still considered invisible, the fighter might notget this swing off until after the rogue moves away.We have played that the first attack immediately negates the invisibility.From that point on, including any other attacks during that turn, the rogueis visible and thus loses all benefits of invisibility including the denydex bonus and concealment.of course, improved invis would be a different matter.</blockquote>

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