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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 1882384" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>Wha?</p><p></p><p>You'll have to be more specific. Let me assume some things, and fill in the holes:</p><p>1) Both the enemy and the rogue are medium sized creatures.</p><p>2) The Rogue is sucessfully moving silently. (Opposed by a Listen check; remember the penalty for distance!)</p><p>3) Both the enemy and the rogue have melee weapons. These weapons have normal reach.</p><p></p><p>Okay?</p><p></p><p>If so, then moving next to the enemy will not provoke any AoOs, unless the rogue then choses to move around further in the enemy's threatened area.</p><p></p><p>You don't need to "move into the enemy's space" in order to do a melee attack...unless you are smaller than size Small.</p><p></p><p>No AoO....see above. But yes, the concealment the OM offers (even right next to your opponent on the battle grid) allows you to <em>Hide</em>. ....Opposed by a Spot check, obviously.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You can't claim to be <em>hidden</em> if the enemy spots you. </p><p></p><p><em><strong>Even so</strong></em>, you can't sneak attack someone who has concealment...and that's just what the spell <em>Obscuring Mist</em> provides.</p><p></p><p>And please: why are you "entering his space"? Are you a size tiny creature?????</p><p></p><p>You don't lose concealment. Read the spell description again.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, you can use a move action to hide again, depending on your character abilities. You can "snipe". Look it up!</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are a rogue. Why, by all that's holy, are you grappling someone????!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nail, post: 1882384, member: 224"] Wha? You'll have to be more specific. Let me assume some things, and fill in the holes: 1) Both the enemy and the rogue are medium sized creatures. 2) The Rogue is sucessfully moving silently. (Opposed by a Listen check; remember the penalty for distance!) 3) Both the enemy and the rogue have melee weapons. These weapons have normal reach. Okay? If so, then moving next to the enemy will not provoke any AoOs, unless the rogue then choses to move around further in the enemy's threatened area. You don't need to "move into the enemy's space" in order to do a melee attack...unless you are smaller than size Small. No AoO....see above. But yes, the concealment the OM offers (even right next to your opponent on the battle grid) allows you to [i]Hide[/i]. ....Opposed by a Spot check, obviously. You can't claim to be [i]hidden[/i] if the enemy spots you. [i][b]Even so[/b][/i][b][/b], you can't sneak attack someone who has concealment...and that's just what the spell [i]Obscuring Mist[/i] provides. And please: why are you "entering his space"? Are you a size tiny creature????? You don't lose concealment. Read the spell description again. Moreover, you can use a move action to hide again, depending on your character abilities. You can "snipe". Look it up! You are a rogue. Why, by all that's holy, are you grappling someone????!!! [/QUOTE]
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