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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Daedrova" data-source="post: 1886696" data-attributes="member: 11835">Hypersmurf, restating your interpretation isn’t helping us at all.  I see no rules that back up any of your statements.  This is a spell, and we are talking about the squares (area) it affects- not its “area of effect”.  That was my mistype.From the glossary in the PH:Square: A square on the battle grid.  A square … represents a 5-foot by 5-foot area.  The terms “1 square” and “5 feet” are generally interchangeable.Adjacent: In a square that shares a border or a corner with a designated square.  Each square is adjacent to eight other squares on the board.Why would the spell not say “adjacent creatures/squares” gain concealment?One square is not 5 feet away from an adjacent square.  There is no distance between those squares.How much space is there between two adjacent characters on a battle board?  Does a medium size creature take up a 5 ft square?  Looking at rules for combat movement we know that they do.  So what you need to answer here is this: if two adjacent squares have no distance between them, and a medium creature takes up a square, why would there now be 5 feet of distance between two adjacent mediums size creatures?  Find something in the Core rules to support your answer.Show some examples.Yes, you are simply restating what you already said.  Show me some supporting evidence.  From what I see in the PH under the Hide skill “You need cover or concealment in order to attempt a Hide check.”  This does not say anything about automatic and immediate awareness by others when you are no longer concealed.Secondly, you gave to no reason as to why a character unaware of an attacking character retains Dex bonus against him when time is artificially being measured in combat rounds.Furthermore, you are making an assumption that that combat rounds have already started. Under SURPRISE on pg 137 of the PH “When a combat starts, if you are not aware of your opponents and they are aware of you, you’re surprised.” How has combat started when the Observer (or we could say victim) wasn’t even aware of the concealed/hidden attacker?Why would the victim be aware of the attacker even if he was already in combat with someone else?They are based on the mechanics of the real world, and attempt to present easy to use rules for handling situations that mimic reality. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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