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<blockquote data-quote="Aaron2" data-source="post: 1887546" data-attributes="member: 1436">I agree mostly with you. A character has to do -something- to warrent a sneak attack. Just Hiding isn't always enough. Hiding does not automatically make you opponent &quot;unaware&quot; of you! I might let a character rush out of a OM (or darkness etc) and get a sneak attack. Once. I wouldn't let him go back into the OM, Hide again, and do it all over. I went through the SRD looking for all instances where a character is denied his Dex mod. Here's all I could find:Being Blinded, Cowering, being Flat-Footed, Grappling (except versus the person you are grappling with), being Helpless, opponent Invisible, being Paralyzed (or any other condition causing helplessness), being Stunned, lifting more than your maximum load, running, sqeezing through a space less than half your width, subject to a feint, while Balancing, and while Climbing.&quot;Hidden&quot; characters and being &quot;aware of you&quot; are not mentioned.Plus there were a few more general things mentioned; when your opponent is &quot;unseen&quot;, when you &quot;can't react to a blow&quot;, and when you are &quot;unable to defend yourself effectively from an attack.&quot; These last three conditions give plenty of wiggle room for DM to declare sneak attacks in situations where the rules may not specifically call for one. Aaron</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aaron2, post: 1887546, member: 1436"] I agree mostly with you. A character has to do -something- to warrent a sneak attack. Just Hiding isn't always enough. Hiding does not automatically make you opponent "unaware" of you! I might let a character rush out of a OM (or darkness etc) and get a sneak attack. Once. I wouldn't let him go back into the OM, Hide again, and do it all over. I went through the SRD looking for all instances where a character is denied his Dex mod. Here's all I could find: Being Blinded, Cowering, being Flat-Footed, Grappling (except versus the person you are grappling with), being Helpless, opponent Invisible, being Paralyzed (or any other condition causing helplessness), being Stunned, lifting more than your maximum load, running, sqeezing through a space less than half your width, subject to a feint, while Balancing, and while Climbing. "Hidden" characters and being "aware of you" are not mentioned. Plus there were a few more general things mentioned; when your opponent is "unseen", when you "can't react to a blow", and when you are "unable to defend yourself effectively from an attack." These last three conditions give plenty of wiggle room for DM to declare sneak attacks in situations where the rules may not specifically call for one. Aaron [/QUOTE]

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