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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 569065" data-attributes="member: 259"><p>DA, my main problem with your situation is that in the following situation:</p><p></p><p><em>Biff the Rogue wants to sneak into the palace, so he turns to his big buddy Frank the Barbarian. "Frank," he hisses, "you distract the guards, and I'll sneak past them into the palace!"</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Frank agrees. As soon as Biff hides, Frank runs forward. "Hey, you worm-eaten, unwashed sons of a mildly retarded she-goat! Here's my impression of your king!" and he turns around and lets loose a long, ripe fart, waggling his bottom threateningly at the guards.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>The guards step forward five feet and begin swinging wildly about them, trying to hit Frank. Biff, watching from the shadows, realizes that while they're distracted, he can slip past the guards and into the palace -- but while he slips between them and the palace wall, he'll be within range of their wildly-swinging greatswords.</em></p><p></p><p>--in this situation, the rules per your interpretation mean that Biff is <strong>less</strong> likely to be hit by the wildly swinging swords if he walks slowly past them, spending four times as long in their threat range, than if he just darts past them.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't make any sense to me. Nor does it make sense that someone fighting with a rapier or a spear is swinging wildly about them in all directions, including directions that they believe are empty.</p><p></p><p>I don't see anything in the rules to support my position, but I think that the rules as written lead to some absurdities. Ruling that you cannot make an AoO on someone unless you can pinpoint the square they're in seems reasonable to me.</p><p></p><p>Daniel</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 569065, member: 259"] DA, my main problem with your situation is that in the following situation: [i]Biff the Rogue wants to sneak into the palace, so he turns to his big buddy Frank the Barbarian. "Frank," he hisses, "you distract the guards, and I'll sneak past them into the palace!" Frank agrees. As soon as Biff hides, Frank runs forward. "Hey, you worm-eaten, unwashed sons of a mildly retarded she-goat! Here's my impression of your king!" and he turns around and lets loose a long, ripe fart, waggling his bottom threateningly at the guards. The guards step forward five feet and begin swinging wildly about them, trying to hit Frank. Biff, watching from the shadows, realizes that while they're distracted, he can slip past the guards and into the palace -- but while he slips between them and the palace wall, he'll be within range of their wildly-swinging greatswords.[/i] --in this situation, the rules per your interpretation mean that Biff is [b]less[/b] likely to be hit by the wildly swinging swords if he walks slowly past them, spending four times as long in their threat range, than if he just darts past them. That doesn't make any sense to me. Nor does it make sense that someone fighting with a rapier or a spear is swinging wildly about them in all directions, including directions that they believe are empty. I don't see anything in the rules to support my position, but I think that the rules as written lead to some absurdities. Ruling that you cannot make an AoO on someone unless you can pinpoint the square they're in seems reasonable to me. Daniel [/QUOTE]
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