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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stevelabny" data-source="post: 5922469" data-attributes="member: 9298">The (total lack of) stealth rules in the playtest is making me fear running it. Are we really back to the 1e version of "can i hide here? no ? what about here?", then sneak up behind someone unless you have the ambusher feat, then try to hide next turn in the same shadows? And how does the pre-gen halfling's "you can hide behind creatures larger than you"  actually work? After attacking the goblin from the shadows, the rogue moves behind the fighter like so:--G-------F------ROn the goblin's turn, he moves to attack the rogue:----------FG-----ROn the rogue's turn, he moves behind the fighter and attempts to hide!---------RFG------He succeeds, and now the goblin doesn't know where he is!If the goblin just holds his ground and attacks the fighter, the rogue can pop out next turn and sneak attack the goblin again!If the goblin takes a diagonal move, he suddenly notices the rogue STANDING RIGHT THERE and the rogue is no longer hidden.----G----RF--------  OOPS!Is that right? However, if the rogue had moved 20 feet back and was in shadows, he would stay hidden unless the goblin used an action to try to find him? If everything I'm typing is correct, I suppose it doesn't sound that bad, but I really had to draw it out to see how it works :/</blockquote>