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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9861744" data-attributes="member: 7635">I think the problem (as you are painfully aware) is that D&D players no longer want the same things. I would have loved three different psionics methods to rank and vote over, but we were given the mystic and told to quibble over the details, which meant people nitpicked it to death. Some liked the idea but not the execution. Some hated it and wanted something closer to that 2e or 3e or 4e provided (which themselves are different experiences). Some wanted no psionics at all. Some wanted some idea that was totally off the wall and some didn't know what they wanted, but that sure wasn't it. That's a LOT more people who have qualms with the mystic than who didn't, and even if they were not a united front, it was enough to deep six what was going on with it for half a decade. In light of how many good ideas got ripped to shreds by a community who didn't have a idea what they wanted except "not that" is it surprising that playtests are glorified popularity contests?Of course, A/B testing has it's issues, as people who liked certain Xanathar's subclasses who didn't make "the cut" can attest. Those ideas were never revisited to see if they could be improved, they get forgotten and lost. For that, I'd rather have WotC give me an idea and see if it vibes rather than give me six options and let the top three exist at the cost of the other three. I'm not convinced things like the dance bard would have seen the light of day in a ranked vote system....</blockquote>

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