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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silam" data-source="post: 9862962" data-attributes="member: 7055898">I view it much the same way, but I still break down that 3rd item into two: sorcery, then psionics. And possibly the first item is also broken down: getting your powers from a deity vs from a (comparatively weaker) patron.It’s all a sliding scale of dependency:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You depend on a god, plus gesturing, shouting, the blood of an ox, the whole shebang.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Same as 1, but you depend on a mortal creature, and still need all the other artifice.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Wizards are the middle of the spectrum in that they are the first "self made men". They don’t depend on prayers or pacts. But they still depend on V, S, M, and in particular a very significant material is their spellbook, which if they lose is a very big deal for them. A small portion of their spells may be independent from the spellbook dependency (their cantrips).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Sorcerers depend on V, S, M but importantly they don’t have a spellbook. They just know their spells in their bones, so to speak. They can wake up naked in a prison cell and still have the portion of their magic that requires only V and S.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Psions are the most independent of all dependencies, since they (in my mind at least) require no components at all. They can not only wake up naked in a prison cell, but also gagged and tied up, and still access their powers.</li> </ol>After those distinctions are in place, I don’t mind saying that they’re all made up of the same "stuff"… mana, chakra, woo woo energy, the weave, the force, whatever.</blockquote>

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